Serious question - does any group overhype their fighters more than the UK?

[richardt]

Man you seem to be taking this kind of hard...sorry I guess.

You are proving my point though...you are swearing that Burns Walsh and Smith etc are top level when they aren't...and they aren't really even that close to it.

But hope you have a great day man!



I mean...the A-side/hometown fighter/prospect gets bad cards all the time man...that happens everywhere, not just the US.

Both Burns and Smith have reached an area that countless others have failed; that is the rarefied air of where contenders and champions have been. The only point I am proving is that your use of the word "Embarrassed" to diminish a fighter's accomplishments is pure idiocy. When a fighter becomes a contender or champion, they are already at the top level because there are far greater number of level below them. They didn't just pop in off the street to fight for a world title on national TV a number of times, they worked their way up. If you weren't new to boxing you would know Burns is not at the top level because he has already been there and fought high ranked fighters and is far past his prime now. You would know that and wouldn't be using Burns in the current sense of "top level" if you knew the current climate of boxing. We're done here.

[Boxing_1013]

Both Burns and Smith have reached an area that countless others have failed; that is the rarefied air of where contenders and champions have been. The only point I am proving is that your use of the word "Embarrassed" to diminish a fighter's accomplishments is pure idiocy. When a fighter becomes a contender or champion, they are already at the top level because there are far greater number of level below them. They didn't just pop in off the street to fight for a world title on national TV a number of times, they worked their way up. If you weren't new to boxing you would know Burns is not at the top level because he has already been there and fought high ranked fighters and is far past his prime now. You would know that and wouldn't be using Burns in the current sense of "top level" if you knew the current climate of boxing. We're done here.

The only time I used the word 'embarrassed' was in 1) describing Burns performance against Indongo...sorry bud, it was embarrassing.

And 2) Indongo's performance against Crawford and Prograis...it was embarrassing, just is what it is man.

AJ's performance against Ruiz was embarrassing...etc etc...there are many such examples.

An embarrassing performance is when you show up way way way less that what was expected.

Ward was getting embarrassed vs Kov in fight 1 before he had a good last 6 rounds (still lost the fight though).

It happens man...idk if Burns is your son or something or what but it's not a big deal buddy.

[richardt]

The only time I used the word 'embarrassed' was in 1) describing Burns performance against Indongo...sorry bud, it was embarrassing.

And 2) Indongo's performance against Crawford and Prograis...it was embarrassing, just is what it is man.

AJ's performance against Ruiz was embarrassing...etc etc...there are many such examples.

An embarrassing performance is when you show up way way way less that what was expected.

Ward was getting embarrassed vs Kov in fight 1 before he had a good last 6 rounds (still lost the fight though).

It happens man...idk if Burns is your son or something or what but it's not a big deal buddy.

No, YOU said "Liam Walsh, Ricky Burns and Liam Smith type fighters are said to be world level, and are then embarrassed when they step up to world level."

WRONG! Ricky Burns had already reached the world level stage and won a world title and fought elite fighters. Elite fighters are not the ONLY fighters at the world level. You have no clue about the pathways to learning boxing in the gyms, gym fights, becoming an amateur, turning pro, rising up through the WORLD rankings. I'm going to check in a month on your posts to see have left the world of not knowing sht about boxing. Till then, your on ignore...I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Don't bother responding, I wont see your responses, you're not on my level. I've been involved in the sport for over 25 years. I'm not going to waste my time with a newbie.

[Scipio2009]

When they've got some body who looks like they can fight... Germans get pretty ridiculous, tbh

[Boxing_1013]

No, YOU said "Liam Walsh, Ricky Burns and Liam Smith type fighters are said to be world level, and are then embarrassed when they step up to world level."

WRONG! Ricky Burns had already reached the world level stage and won a world title and fought elite fighters. Elite fighters are not the ONLY fighters at the world level. You have no clue about the pathways to learning boxing in the gyms, gym fights, becoming an amateur, turning pro, rising up through the WORLD rankings. I'm going to check in a month on your posts to see have left the world of not knowing sht about boxing. Till then, your on ignore...I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Don't bother responding, I wont see your responses, you're not on my level. I've been involved in the sport for over 25 years. I'm not going to waste my time with a newbie.

Oh the irony lol.

Btw this is my thread man...no one is asking you to be in here lol.

Yeah man 3 of those guys were not that great and were overhyped...is what it is...sorry it upsets you so much...it's very reasonable to have an opinion that those 3 fellas, among many others from the UK, have been overhyped...a lot of groups do it, but imho the UK is far and away number 1 in that category, thus I made this thread to gather thoughts.

In any event, my friendly advice to you would be try and debate with a bit more decorum...when you lose your cool so easily, over rather insignificant comments, it reflects poorly on you imho and calls your analysis into question.

In any event, I hope you keep the studying the game a bit and have a great day!

[Boxing_1013]

When they've got some body who looks like they can fight... Germans get pretty ridiculous, tbh

Thanks...I can't even remember any good Germans really.