Comments Thread For: Roach Gives Luis Ortiz No Shot To Beat Anthony Joshua

[Sid-Knee]

What’s really sad is that you actually believe what you write. The baby oil fumes you are inhailing after administering it on your body on fight nights is frying your brain cells

I'd wager that dude not even having any brain cells. The way he views reality tells me he has methane in that head of his. No other possibility.

[MC Hammer]

Well going 12 with Parker and winning his belt told me he is the unified Champion. Beating Takam and controlling the fight from start to finish having endured a horrific head butt at the start of the fight showed me he had minerals. Was the stoppage premature? Absolutely. Would it had made a difference I will let you run with that idea.

Those 2 fights by the sounds of it have had a more significant influence on you? I would pose the same question to you. What did going 12 with Fury and the fight with Ortiz tell you about Wilder?

N.b not his excuses after the fight the actual fight

The Fury fight showed me that Wilder could carry his power til the end, he had the endurance/stamina to push the fight the whole time and he could win rds (especially the early ones) against a fighter with much more experience.

That last point can be said of the Ortiz fight because he was ahead on the cards at the stoppage, he showed amazing heart taking KO shots from one of the hardest punchers in the division without going down. Plus he took a tough fight with a southpaw that he was not forced to take. Wilder has showed tons in his difficult matches

[REDEEMER]

This could apply to almost every heavyweight. Roach is correct though ,cant imagine a fighter fighting Joshua which lets Joshua unload his counter right hand easier with southpaws and Ortiz fits that bill ,i9m sure Roach sees that too otherwise he wouldn't make such statements. Had Miller still fought AJ ,he just gets battered more, the peds he was taking would just give him a more prolonged beating.

[john l]

Roach is CLEARLY biased he comes right out and says he really likes AJ and Khan and then goes on to say two things I doubt too many trainers/experts would agree with.Khan may very well give Craw a good fight for a few rds matter I fact I think he has a perfect style to beat or at least give Craw he ll.Khan is VERY hard to outbox and Craw is not a huge puncher esp at 47.Khan though I think is past his best the fight with Vargas he REALLY did not look good and Khan with a diminishing punch resistance is a VERY vulnerable fighter.Ortiz did look to be MAYBE showing his age in his last fight, he seemed to be really feeling the punches.I don't believe for a sec he just "wanted to work on his boxing"he was feeling them shots just like the GR8 Chavez did when he fought Randall after eating up the shots of maybe the hardest punching lightweigt in last 35+ yrs in Rosario and so many others.All that being said Ortiz is still the best option out there and would have at least decent chance to beat AJ unless he gets old overnight as he is 40(and only 40).He brings that 300 AM career and the skills that go with, that along with his southpaw style and good punch and chin.Ortiz has also came out and said he wants fight so all that BS from Hearn(I swear he can lie better then Arum)about him not wanting it are not true and kinda proof that Hearn is already getting his excuse out front for not picking what I think most unbiased fans would like to see above other choices.

[john l]

The Fury fight showed me that Wilder could carry his power til the end, he had the endurance/stamina to push the fight the whole time and he could win rds (especially the early ones) against a fighter with much more experience.

That last point can be said of the Ortiz fight because he was ahead on the cards at the stoppage, he showed amazing heart taking KO shots from one of the hardest punchers in the division without going down. Plus he took a tough fight with a southpaw that he was not forced to take. Wilder has showed tons in his difficult matches

Agree 100%

[dan_cov]

Great news for Ortiz\Wilder fans this means he'll ice AJ

Seriously has Freddie predicted a single fight correctly in the last 5 years?

[PBR Streetgang]

Ortiz did say he was ready on a weeks notice to fight Wilder. You'd think he'd feel the same way about AJ with a lot more time to train. This proves he obviously doesn't.

From what I read (who knows if it's true) Ortiz also said he was willing to go for this fight as well, however his team was more apprehensive. Also, circumstances are not always the same every time. Variables ring related and non-ring related can impact one's readiness.

Ortiz would be the ideal substitute for Miller but I think AJ handles him full camp or not. He has the name and the war with Wilder as a measuring stick for AJ; I think AJ's youth, size, power and boxing would be too much for the old crafty Cuban.

Call me crazy, and I may be very wrong, but I think Michael Hunter may actually be a live dog if he's selected. He held his own against Usyk and his stoppages of Bakole and Ustinov show he has some power. If, and a big if, he has whiskers to withstand some bombs I could see him using his boxing savvy to win rounds and make a compelling fight.

[champion4ever]

Nah, it doesn't work like that either. The terms of any given contract will naturally reflect the relative bargaining powers of the parties.

DAZN need Ortiz badly... The power is with Ortiz. If he refuses to sign up to an option agreement then you can bet your house that DAZN would be willing to make this a one off fight (albeit with a rematch clause for AJ)

But the point still stands. He could take those belts back with him to PBC, he just has to beat AJ twice.

I agree. Technically that is true but you can rest assure that Haymon won't allow him to go into those DAZN meetings alone. He will need to know everything down to the very last detail.

[champion4ever]

Why have you been calling for the fight and calling AJ a coward for so long then if you're "Resigned" to the fact?

You really can't keep a hold on all your contradictions.

Neither can you list all of Hearn's supposed lies. Yeah, I haven't forgotten.

Sid, hello my friend; How have you been? It's always nice hearing from you.

Now to address your concerns; Haymon has to answer to his bosses at CBS and Fox. He doesn't have to answer to me nor should he because I am not his boss but Mark Silverman and Stephen Espinosa is.

He is under an enormous amount of pressure such as Eddie Hearn is with DAZN to provide enough boxing content and entertainment to those platforms by filling up all those dates and time slots with them. Therefore, he must utilize all the talent that he has in his current stable.

Which is why he has persuaded his fighters not to fight on other platforms such as DAZN and ESPN. For example: Deontay Wilder, Luis Ortiz and Adam Kownacki.

Moreover, it's the same reason why Matchroom fighters from the U.K. Are now fighting in the U.S. It's because Eddie Hearn has to fill out those dates and time slots that he is contractually obligated to by providing enough boxing content to DAZN as well.

[Noelanthony]

The Fury fight showed me that Wilder could carry his power til the end, he had the endurance/stamina to push the fight the whole time and he could win rds (especially the early ones) against a fighter with much more experience.

That last point can be said of the Ortiz fight because he was ahead on the cards at the stoppage, he showed amazing heart taking KO shots from one of the hardest punchers in the division without going down. Plus he took a tough fight with a southpaw that he was not forced to take. Wilder has showed tons in his difficult matches

Amen