Comments Thread For: Roach Gives Luis Ortiz No Shot To Beat Anthony Joshua

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  • champion4ever
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    #91
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
    Show me where Hearn is stating that Ortiz needs to sign to DAZN in order to get the fight?

    oh no, wait. You can't. Because it's bullshlt like the rest of the nonsense you post.
    Now Sid-Knee, it's no secret that Matchroom has a shortage of talent. If this DAZN deal is going to work he is going have to sign some American fighters.

    How long do you think Matchroom can survive in this business by spreading themselves so thinly?

    He cannot continue to import his entire stable of fighters from the U.K. to the U.S. In order to fulfill his contractual obligations to DAZN and Skysports all at the same time.

    Eddie Hearn underestimated the American boxing landscape. He now realizes that signing American fighters for higher pay was a much more difficult task than he had originally thought.

    Moreover, he underestimated the power and influence that Al Haymon wields over the fighters in his stable. They are fiercely and staunchly loyal to him.

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    • mrjoeblive
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      #92
      Originally posted by alohashirt
      Have you forgot what really happened? Mayweather accused Pacquioa of juicing, which was denied. Then Pacquioa learned about Mayweather’s three failed tests that hadn’t been disclosed by USADA. Pacquioa sued Mayweather and received an undisclosed cash settlement and Mayweather didn’t say a bad word about Manny again.

      Read the Thomas Hausner stories from that time. I’m (now) a Mayweather fan and I admit his amazing record has some asterixes.
      Come on man seriously. Floyd never failed a drug test. Floyd may be the most hated boxer ever behind Jack Johnson. USDA would never protect Floyd. And what about all the excuse pac gave, scared of needles, makes him too weak, it's against his religion. And how would the peds help Floyd? He is not a fighter that relies on power. He is always in great shape. His issue was his hands not his stamina.

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        #93
        Well responded

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        • mrjoeblive
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          #94
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          Why not? Ortiz did say he'd be ready at a weeks notice for the Wilder rematch. Plenty of time here to train if he's in the gym already ticking over.

          How can AJ give Ortiz a full camp when there is only over 5 weeks to go till fight time? AJ didn't plan on Miller failing a test and f3cking things up.
          Sid I do get they wanted an American fighter for AJ to beat up in America. When I say give Ortiz a full camp I am referring to a different fight date. I don't think you can blame AJ for JM screwing up. They can pick anyone except some total soup can. Would love to see AJ vs Ortiz with both fighters having a full camp to be at their best so no excuses for the loser.

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #95
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            As soon as Hearn announces Joshua’s stand in Ortiz will come out and say he was ready but no call or his internet was down . He didn’t know and he would fight him for £500,000. Wilder fans will buy it and be happy again saying Ortiz is the 2nd best heavyweight. Fury was 2nd but he signed with ESPN so they have pushed him back down to 5th ,one behind Adam kownacki
            Lolx.... Neolanthony : you just know how to crack me up.
            Well written.
            Expect to hear from Ortiz when AJ's opponent have been announced.

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #96
              Originally posted by Jkp
              Loud? He doesn't even speak English.
              Does he speak any language that cannot be interpreted?

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #97
                Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                I’m fully confident that Noelanthony is either AJ’s sparring partner or spitbucket carrier or Matchroom’s online shrill!

                Anyways, Ortiz won’t do since it won’t be enough time for him to have a full training camp which is fair and that he’s already signed with Showtime!

                People don’t understand how boxing works as well, AJ has been specifically training for a orthodox fighter and now would have to switch to a southpaw with longer reach and technical skills plus power!

                Roach is a bad jinx as well, every fight he’s predicted has gone the opposite! You AJ fans needs to tell Roach quiet down!
                It doesn't matter if Ortiz have full training camp or one full year training or one week training, it's still the same result.
                Hez getting KOed unconsciously and he will never be involved in any fight close to 6mil till he retires.

                It's a loose loose for Ortiz.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                  Lol you can believe roach all you want and sing his praise to the milky way but I really suggest you go back and look at some of his previous fight prediction and how far off he was AJ and his camp had plenty of chances to fight king Kong after a full camp and not some super short camp with a offer made on such a short notice. Ortiz is called the most avoided boxer of the division for a reason and not just by Wilder fans. If they are so confident they will beat Ortiz, why didn't they fight him instead of JM. Ortiz is a much bigger name and it would have shut up plenty of nay Sayers.
                  Ortiz is an undercard fighter, he had no name. there is no way he has better publicity in the state than JM.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Why have you been calling for the fight and calling AJ a coward for so long then if you're "Resigned" to the fact?

                    You really can't keep a hold on all your contradictions.

                    Neither can you list all of Hearn's supposed lies. Yeah, I haven't forgotten.
                    champion4ever is a bad poster full of contradictions. He contradicts himself every now and then.
                    Am surprised the way he soft pedals on this Ortiz bogeyman tag now the the opportunity is right before him.
                    He has always advocated for AJ/ortiz to happen, calling AJ different names, now he thinks the fight cannot happen because Ortiz is a showtime undercard fighter.
                    Pathetic.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      I agree. Technically that is true but you can rest assure that Haymon won't allow him to go into those DAZN meetings alone. He will need to know everything down to the very last detail.
                      your countenance about Ortiz this few days have changed from Ortiz the bogeyman that AJ is scared of to Ortiz the pet monkey that AL will not allow to fight and be humiliated on DAZN.
                      Am highly surprised you are no longer pushing for AJ/ortiz with series of excuses and defences why the fight should not happen.

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