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  • bbboc.co.uk
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    #71
    I'm just shocked we haven't seen Shannon Briggs shouting "I'm ready, let's go champ" at every camera in the known universe for the past 48 hours.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Jkp
      Loud? He doesn't even speak English.
      You don't need to speak English to be loud.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Freddie has been wrong many (Floyd vs. Oscar), many (Floyd vs. Cotto), many (Floyd vs. Pacquiao) times! Wasn't Lebedev going to beat Gassiev?

        I find it ironic that the same people who made excuses when GGG vacated his IBF title instead of fighting Derevyanchenko, are now complaining when Ortiz refuses to fight Joshua, even though he would only have approximately 5 weeks to train for the fight!
        For the record I had Lebedev beating Gassiev by 2 points.

        But wasn't Roach training the other fighters he picked?

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          #74
          Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
          Eh, don't blame Ortiz' people for not taking it with less than optimal time. I also dont think Ortiz has any problem fighting AJ although being subjected to the VADA testing without prior warning may be an issue for him.

          I also think AJ would probably handle Ortiz without much issue. The more I think about it, the more I could see Michael Hunter being the most dangerous of the potential opponents being mentioned.
          Ortiz did say he was ready on a weeks notice to fight Wilder. You'd think he'd feel the same way about AJ with a lot more time to train. This proves he obviously doesn't.

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            #75
            Originally posted by trueblood
            I think if .....Ortiz ...A younger ortiz would have beat klitzco.

            PEDS...This is the joke! Golden Boy

            Stole Judges!!! ONE was absolutely BLATEN.

            ByRD is still JUDING IN VEGAS....

            Canello GOT CAUGHT!!!! Then many boxers agreed.

            He was on PEDS. MONEY!!!! GGG ...BAD MANAGEMENT!

            He should have walked away...Fought in JAPAN GOT HIS RECORD!!!

            Let this GOLDENBOY CHEAT SHOP ROT!

            INSTED>>> He takes thew money..They steal the belts.,

            JUST ****** MANAGEMENT>>

            ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..JUST GLAD GGG

            GOT PAYED IN THIS CHEAT SPORT>
            I don't think it's a good idea to post while **** in the middle of a drug haze. Although it is funny to the reader of said post. Haha.

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              #76
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              It won't happen Anthony. As much as I would love for it too happen.

              I'm resigned to the fact Al Haymon won't allow anymore of the fighters in his stable to fight on another platform; Especially DAZN.

              As was in the case in Deontay Wilder. The fighters in his stable are all free agents and he fears once they start making top dollar over there at DAZN he runs the risk of losing them for good because they have the deeper pockets in order to steal/keep them.

              In addition, like all smart promoters if Ortiz signs with Matchroom, then they would want additional options on all his future fights as well. Especially, if he defeats Joshua.

              I can guarantee you that Anthony Joshua's replacement opponent will not be an Al Haymon PBC fighter like Adam Kownacki. It looks like right now that Michael Hunter will be the likely replacement for Jarrell Miller.

              It's because not only does he fight on DAZN and is in the same stable as AJ but he is also an American heavyweight too.
              Why have you been calling for the fight and calling AJ a coward for so long then if you're "Resigned" to the fact?

              You really can't keep a hold on all your contradictions.

              Neither can you list all of Hearn's supposed lies. Yeah, I haven't forgotten.

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                #77
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                It doesn't quite work that way. Before Ortiz even signs with DAZN they are going to want additional options on all his future fights.

                Moreover, if he defeats Anthony Joshua there is a mandatory rematch clause. That's why Haymon would forbid him for signing would DAZN because if he does chances are he may not comeback to the PBC and Showtime;

                Given all the money that DAZN has to throw around. They just may try to keep/steal him.
                Show me where Hearn is stating that Ortiz needs to sign to DAZN in order to get the fight?

                oh no, wait. You can't. Because it's bullshlt like the rest of the nonsense you post.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                  I’m fully confident that Noelanthony is either AJ’s sparring partner or spitbucket carrier or Matchroom’s online shrill!

                  Anyways, Ortiz won’t do since it won’t be enough time for him to have a full training camp which is fair and that he’s already signed with Showtime!

                  People don’t understand how boxing works as well, AJ has been specifically training for a orthodox fighter and now would have to switch to a southpaw with longer reach and technical skills plus power!

                  Roach is a bad jinx as well, every fight he’s predicted has gone the opposite! You AJ fans needs to tell Roach quiet down!
                  None of the PBC fighters are tied down to Showtime. They can fight anywhere they please as long as the joke Haymon allows it.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    Lol you can believe roach all you want and sing his praise to the milky way but I really suggest you go back and look at some of his previous fight prediction and how far off he was AJ and his camp had plenty of chances to fight king Kong after a full camp and not some super short camp with a offer made on such a short notice. Ortiz is called the most avoided boxer of the division for a reason and not just by Wilder fans. If they are so confident they will beat Ortiz, why didn't they fight him instead of JM. Ortiz is a much bigger name and it would have shut up plenty of nay Sayers.
                    AJ was fighting Miller because he's American and has a big mouth to sell to the New Yorkers. Ortiz would be boring in the build up and harder to sell for your first fight overseas. Plus, I think Ortiz is the second most overrated in the division after Wilder and has no stamina. Miller may not have beaten a decent fighter yet, but he's fresh. Ortiz isn't and has only beaten one decent fighter a couple of years ago in Jennings. So not much difference in resume. I do however consider Ortiz to be the best choice after all this test fail shlt though.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                      So again, why didn't AJ and crew offer Ortiz a fight with a full camp not a few weeks to prep for a super fight. As for Ortiz not jumping at the offer, some fighters really enjoy the time between fights and need a full camp to get back into fighting shape and work on timing and reflexes. AJ and camp lose credibility for trying to slam Ortiz. Looks like a cheap attempt to gain a advantage. AJ fan boys always say Ortiz is 52 well then his old azz really needs a full camp to be in the best shape. After this you won't hear AJ camp mention Ortiz.
                      Why not? Ortiz did say he'd be ready at a weeks notice for the Wilder rematch. Plenty of time here to train if he's in the gym already ticking over.

                      How can AJ give Ortiz a full camp when there is only over 5 weeks to go till fight time? AJ didn't plan on Miller failing a test and f3cking things up.

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