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  • Mammoth
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    #51
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    Yup! He was officially offered the fight and has until next Tuesday to accept or reject it.

    3 MAJOR belts and $5+ million.... Damn I would fire Al if I was Ortiz and he tried stopping me from fighting. He already has losses so know reason not to take the fight. Make $$$$ that's why you get punched in the face for a living.
    One loss..........

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    • rickJen
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      #52
      Wow, Roach gives him no shot at all.
      And this is Wilder's one and only meaningful win after 40 fights.
      And some are still wondering why he and Wilder want retirement money in the AJ fight.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Noelanthony
        Huh!! You have always campaigned for Ortiz to fight AJ. I’m flabbergasted at your reluctance now. This is King Kong we are talking about the boogeyman
        It won't happen Anthony. As much as I would love for it too happen.

        I'm resigned to the fact Al Haymon won't allow anymore of the fighters in his stable to fight on another platform; Especially DAZN.

        As was in the case in Deontay Wilder. The fighters in his stable are all free agents and he fears once they start making top dollar over there at DAZN he runs the risk of losing them for good because they have the deeper pockets in order to steal/keep them.

        In addition, like all smart promoters if Ortiz signs with Matchroom, then they would want additional options on all his future fights as well. Especially, if he defeats Joshua.

        I can guarantee you that Anthony Joshua's replacement opponent will not be an Al Haymon PBC fighter like Adam Kownacki. It looks like right now that Michael Hunter will be the likely replacement for Jarrell Miller.

        It's because not only does he fight on DAZN and is in the same stable as AJ but he is also an American heavyweight too.

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          #54
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          It won't happen Anthony. As much as I would love for it too happen.

          I'm resigned to the fact Al Haymon won't allow anymore of the fighters in his stable to fight on another platform; Especially DAZN.

          As was in the case in Deontay Wilder. The fighters in his stable are all free agents and he fears once they start making top dollar over there at DAZN he runs the risk of losing them for good because they have the deeper pockets in order to steal/keep them.

          In addition, like all smart promoters if Ortiz signs with Matchroom, then they would want additional options on all his future fights as well. Especially, if he defeats Joshua.

          I can guarantee you that Anthony Joshua's replacement opponent will not be an Al Haymon PBC fighter like Adam Kownacki. It looks like right now that Michael Hunter will be the likely replacement for Jarrell Miller.

          It's because not only does he fight on DAZN and is in the same stable as AJ but he is also an American heavyweight too.
          Al Haymon is his advisor not his promoter he can not think like that and if he does then Ortiz is better off without him. Doesn’t Haymon get 10% of Ortiz purse? It’s in his best interest too financially. Who else can Ortiz fight and even make 1/10 of what he will get fighting AJ. He could fight him and retire if he loses. If he wins he is set for life and his kids for their life’s too.

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            #55
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            So Luis Ortiz should go beat Joshua's ass and bring the belts back to PBC and Showtime.

            What's the problem?
            It doesn't quite work that way. Before Ortiz even signs with DAZN they are going to want additional options on all his future fights.

            Moreover, if he defeats Anthony Joshua there is a mandatory rematch clause. That's why Haymon would forbid him for signing would DAZN because if he does chances are he may not comeback to the PBC and Showtime;

            Given all the money that DAZN has to throw around. They just may try to keep/steal him.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Noelanthony
              Al Haymon is his advisor not his promoter he can not think like that and if he does then Ortiz is better off without him. Doesn’t Haymon get 10% of Ortiz purse? It’s in his best interest too financially. Who else can Ortiz fight and even make 1/10 of what he will get fighting AJ. He could fight him and retire if he loses. If he wins he is set for life and his kids for their life’s too.
              I agree with everything you are saying but Haymon is a secret promoter himself too. He just can't come out and admit it or he will violate the Muhammad Ali Act we have here in the U.S. Which forbids a promoter to act as a fighter's manager also.

              He has two platforms as well. One with Fox and the other with Showtime. Therefore, he is under the same kind of pressure as Eddie Hearn is with DAZN when it comes to delivering entertainment, filling time slots and dates for those platforms. Therefore, he needs all the fighters he can get in order to fill them.

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #57
                I’m fully confident that Noelanthony is either AJ’s sparring partner or spitbucket carrier or Matchroom’s online shrill!

                Anyways, Ortiz won’t do since it won’t be enough time for him to have a full training camp which is fair and that he’s already signed with Showtime!

                People don’t understand how boxing works as well, AJ has been specifically training for a orthodox fighter and now would have to switch to a southpaw with longer reach and technical skills plus power!

                Roach is a bad jinx as well, every fight he’s predicted has gone the opposite! You AJ fans needs to tell Roach quiet down!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Jkp
                  Loud? He doesn't even speak English.
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  They cry aimlessly. Don't bother with them.
                  i never knew non-english speakers couldnt be loud

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                    I’m fully confident that Noelanthony is either AJ’s sparring partner or spitbucket carrier or Matchroom’s online shrill!

                    Anyways, Ortiz won’t do since it won’t be enough time for him to have a full training camp which is fair and that he’s already signed with Showtime!

                    People don’t understand how boxing works as well, AJ has been specifically training for a orthodox fighter and now would have to switch to a southpaw with longer reach and technical skills plus power!

                    Roach is a bad jinx as well, every fight he’s predicted has gone the opposite! You AJ fans needs to tell Roach quiet down!
                    says the guy who is always on wilders nuts

                    btw what is an online "shrill" ?

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                      I’m fully confident that Noelanthony is either AJ’s sparring partner or spitbucket carrier or Matchroom’s online shrill!

                      Anyways, Ortiz won’t do since it won’t be enough time for him to have a full training camp which is fair and that he’s already signed with Showtime!

                      People don’t understand how boxing works as well, AJ has been specifically training for a orthodox fighter and now would have to switch to a southpaw with longer reach and technical skills plus power!

                      Roach is a bad jinx as well, every fight he’s predicted has gone the opposite! You AJ fans needs to tell Roach quiet down!
                      Lol or your mom’s toy boy. Just playing . I’m actually CEO of joshualite enterprises and it’s my job to promote my fighters. If I carry on like this I will grow up to be brilliant like Shirley Winkel that was the mastermind behind Wilder’s success

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