Comments Thread For: Roach Gives Luis Ortiz No Shot To Beat Anthony Joshua

[Shadoww702]

Huh!! You have always campaigned for Ortiz to fight AJ. I’m flabbergasted at your reluctance now. This is King Kong we are talking about the boogeyman

Why not Ortiz??? If he ppl dont want Ortiz at leastvl name who you think is more worthy, available, and ready in such short notice....

[Shadoww702]

One loss..........

Yeah but this is for ALL the Marbles and the pay is huge.

[alohashirt]

Are you serious?

Roach should NOT at all be talking about others juicing and penalties. Pacman was juicing for yrs and starching guys. Soon as Mayweather got on his ass about fight and drug testing, Pacman made excuses. When he did stop juicing his power suddenly went away and he has stopped only one or two opponents to date since than.

Have you forgot what really happened? Mayweather accused Pacquioa of juicing, which was denied. Then Pacquioa learned about Mayweather’s three failed tests that hadn’t been disclosed by USADA. Pacquioa sued Mayweather and received an undisclosed cash settlement and Mayweather didn’t say a bad word about Manny again.

Read the Thomas Hausner stories from that time. I’m (now) a Mayweather fan and I admit his amazing record has some asterixes.

[Sid-Knee]

Just cannot see it being Ortiz Sky TV learned their lesson when Khan was ktfo in the first fight of a new deal

This is Joshuas USA coming out party if he lost his first fight there it would be a disaster for them and take them 2 steps back to rebuild theres no doubt Hearn will be getting pressure from TV bosses to take the safest option possible

Sky acknowledge AJ as the best, so why would they have any doubts? They wouldn't have had AJ fight Wlad after 18 fights if there were any worries. Nor fight Whyte, Parker, Povetkin either.

Sky need to sell the PPV's so a good opponent is needed. Ortiz fits the bill, but it seems he doesn't want it after shouting his mouth off that he does. But hey, he's just taking after the other coward Deontay Wilder. All moth, no action.

[PBR Streetgang]

We shouldn't underestimate this factor. Ortiz may have been pretty relaxed in between fights taking whatever 'vitamin ****tails' his team have been feeding him and they would be smart to do a private blood screening first just to make sure he's good to go.

Exactly, I'm not even inferring that he was necessarily on some intentional juicing regime but that he may not have been as strict with the supplements he was using at that time. It would only be due diligence to ensure you didn't inadvertently pop for something when you have popped in the past. Who knows but it's a possibility.

[mrjoeblive]

Roach know his stuff and is an elite trainer, do we believe him about how this fight goes or do we believe Wilder nuthuggers who have hyped Ortiz up to be a complete beast with the only evidence of this to be that he fought Wilder and lost.

Lol you can believe roach all you want and sing his praise to the milky way but I really suggest you go back and look at some of his previous fight prediction and how far off he was AJ and his camp had plenty of chances to fight king Kong after a full camp and not some super short camp with a offer made on such a short notice. Ortiz is called the most avoided boxer of the division for a reason and not just by Wilder fans. If they are so confident they will beat Ortiz, why didn't they fight him instead of JM. Ortiz is a much bigger name and it would have shut up plenty of nay Sayers.

[mrjoeblive]

Sky acknowledge AJ as the best, so why would they have any doubts? They wouldn't have had AJ fight Wlad after 18 fights if there were any worries. Nor fight Whyte, Parker, Povetkin either.

Sky need to sell the PPV's so a good opponent is needed. Ortiz fits the bill, but it seems he doesn't want it after shouting his mouth off that he does. But hey, he's just taking after the other coward Deontay Wilder. All moth, no action.

So again, why didn't AJ and crew offer Ortiz a fight with a full camp not a few weeks to prep for a super fight. As for Ortiz not jumping at the offer, some fighters really enjoy the time between fights and need a full camp to get back into fighting shape and work on timing and reflexes. AJ and camp lose credibility for trying to slam Ortiz. Looks like a cheap attempt to gain a advantage. AJ fan boys always say Ortiz is 52 well then his old azz really needs a full camp to be in the best shape. After this you won't hear AJ camp mention Ortiz.

[Noelanthony]

It's really sad when you think about it.theres only two fighters in my opinion that fight clean and are naturally gifted.deontay and Joseph Parker.thats it the rest have been caught and the others just haven't got caught yet

What’s really sad is that you actually believe what you write. The baby oil fumes you are inhailing after administering it on your body on fight nights is frying your brain cells

[Hatesrats]

Fight will prob NOT happen...
(For the ESB scientists: How long does it take to cycle off PED'S?? is 6 weeks enough??)

[Redgloveman]

It doesn't quite work that way. Before Ortiz even signs with DAZN they are going to want additional options on all his future fights.

Nah, it doesn't work like that either. The terms of any given contract will naturally reflect the relative bargaining powers of the parties.

DAZN need Ortiz badly... The power is with Ortiz. If he refuses to sign up to an option agreement then you can bet your house that DAZN would be willing to make this a one off fight (albeit with a rematch clause for AJ)

But the point still stands. He could take those belts back with him to PBC, he just has to beat AJ twice.