Dissecting Golovkin's MW Reign

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  • Daylyt
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    #141
    GGG > hagler

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    • Mooshashi
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      #142
      As recently as three years ago Froch was not a household name to the casual UK sports fan, by casual I mean casual boxing fans. Only Ricky Hatton was well known. He gradually worked his way into the public consciousness by winning bouts in the Super Six and frankly because of Groves' big mouth. The Groves II
      was of course a massive money make because it was billed as a grudge match due to the controversial ending of the first fight. The public loves grudge matches.....it was being compared to the Benn Eubank bouts.

      No way would a GGG-Froch be as big in the UK NOW. What GGG would have to do is fight once in the UK and show himself to the public....he is as likable and fan friendly as anyone in years. No question enough Russians would pay to see him to make it worthwhile to take place in the UK. Maybe fight a Euro like Kessler or Abraham at 168.

      Problem is this would take a year at least to build up the hype but by then Froch is most likely retired.

      There are big fish for GGG to fry at 168 once he defeats winner of Cotto-Alvarez.
      Last edited by Mooshashi; 10-19-2014, 07:28 PM.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #143
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        It's not ridiculous. It's plain and basic common sense. No one in the UK knows Golovkin apart from hardcore boxing fans. Your mate down the road might know him but that's a very small exception in the bigger picture. You really need to think beyond and realise that there's a whole world out there. Boxing is very much a niche sport in the UK - the vast majority of the British public don't watch boxing at all let alone know who Gennady Golovkin is.

        How can people not get this?
        I can't fathom it. My mind can't comprehend it.

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        • HeroBando
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          #144
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          I can't fathom it. My mind can't comprehend it.
          Why? One is a global boxing event, the other one a manufactured local rivalry with a guy nobody rates or follows. Frankie Gavin is an amateur world champ and better known in the UK than someone like JMM. You think Khan does better number in England vs Gavin than JMM?

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #145
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Why? One is a global boxing event, the other one a manufactured local rivalry with a guy nobody rates or follows. Frankie Gavin is an amateur world champ and better known in the UK than someone like JMM. You think Khan does better number in England vs Gavin than JMM?
            Frankie Gavin isn't more known than Marquez in the UK.

            And Degale is much more known than Gavin.

            Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about in this regard.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 10-20-2014, 12:21 AM.

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            • dan_cov
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              #146
              He is wasting his prime arguably as an elite MW when there is nothing that will enhance his legacy. The three best fighters outside of him are probably N'Dam, Quillin & Jacobs. I think he is wasting his time Quillin has no balls, N'Dam might and Jacobs will avoid it unless he has to.
              There is no competition. Maybe N'Dam with his movement & Jacobs can give him some minor problems early on but that is it, both guys get taken out before 5-6. We know this.

              These wins are not doing anything for him especially barely top 10 or just outside MWs, that are blown up.

              He should take up Kesslers challenge of a 164 catchweight or maybe 166, whatever. Zombie, drained, shot Kessler is still a better name and a better fighter than all of those at 160 by a country mile.
              He should use that to springboard upto SMW & fight Froch or Dirrell or even Groves before targeting that bible basher who is supposedly a top 3 P4P.
              I want to see him fight Ward he is the only fighter present that can potentially beat him. He has the style to beat Ward

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #147
                I think if ggg traveled over to the UK it would be a huge fight...


                Jeff lacy did huge business with calzaghe in Wales,, and ggg is much better than lacy and is on a more dominant win streak than lacy was...


                If lacy-calzaghe, or hatton-tyszu were huge fights then I see no reason why ggg-froch wouldn't be huge.. Maybe not as big as froch-groves 2, but a huge fight regardless

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  I think if ggg traveled over to the UK it would be a huge fight...


                  Jeff lacy did huge business with calzaghe in Wales,, and ggg is much better than lacy and is on a more dominant win streak than lacy was...


                  If lacy-calzaghe, or hatton-tyszu were huge fights then I see no reason why ggg-froch wouldn't be huge.. Maybe not as big as froch-groves 2, but a huge fight regardless
                  It would be big because of Carl Froch. Any Froch fight is big in the UK right now.

                  However, it wouldn't be as big as the DeGale fight. It certainly wouldn't be as big overall as the Chavez fight. Even Kessler III or Groves III would likely generate more interest than Golovkin.

                  I understand that people are willing GGG to be a huge worldwide star but the fact of the matter is that he isn't....yet.

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Frankie Gavin isn't more known than Marquez in the UK.

                    And Degale is much more known than Gavin.

                    Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about in this regard.
                    You don't have to take it so literal. Isn't Gavin the first British amateur world champ ever? Degale is known for his amateur gold. Without that he's got nothing on GGG even in the UK. Who outside the boxing circles knows JMM in the UK?

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      You don't have to take it so literal. Isn't Gavin the first British amateur world champ ever? Degale is known for his amateur gold. Without that he's got nothing on GGG even in the UK. Who outside the boxing circles knows JMM in the UK?
                      Casuals know Marquez from the Pacquaio fights and the Mayweather fight.

                      Sky has been broadcasting Marqeuz fights on and off since 2009.

                      You're comparing Frankie Gavin to James Degale again, you clearly have no idea.

                      Degale is known in the UK to the casual audience. Frankie Gavin isn't.

                      The comparisons you've used are terrible.

                      Degale has nothing on Golovkin in the UK? Get a clue man.

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