What makes Hagler greater than De La Hoya??

[Box-Office]

Whitaker
Chavez
Vargas



Bullshit comment debunked.

Yes he caught them when they were over the hill. No better than Hatton's win on Tsyzu. Vargas was a seller, but resume wise pretty average. Gatti too.

Pac
Mayweather (on Oscar's terms)
Hopkins
Trinidad

Ill be fair and not count Mosley due to roids i mean how would we know.

Nuthugging debunked.

[Mr.Fantastic]

How on Earth was that a big fight?

Ruelas was suppose to be like the next big challenge and had a possibility to beat Oscar. I remember that shit like it was yesterday. It was specially big with the Mexican/American Cali crowd.

[Holywarrior]

Yes he caught them when they were over the hill. No better than Hatton's win on Tsyzu. Vargas was a seller, but resume wise pretty average. Gatti too.

Pac
Mayweather (on Oscar's terms)
Hopkins
Trinidad

Ill be fair and not count Mosley due to roids i mean how would we know.

Oscar was over the hill for Pac and Mayweather.

[Holywarrior]

Ruelas was suppose to be like the next big challenge and had a possibility to beat Oscar. I remember that shit like it was yesterday. It was specially big with the Mexican/American Cali crowd.

It only suits their agenda to be "big" if he lost it.

[IronDanHamza]

Didn't see post #72, my bad. Will reply to it when I get back.

How is it a fact if he was still praised so highly and ranked? When Whitaker fought Trinidad, that's when he was truly well into decline. The ******* problems happened after DLH.

It's a fact because look at his last 3 fights. I'm going to assume you've seen those.

Hurtado and Riveria are fringe contenders and that's at very best and he looked literally absolutely terrible in all three of those fights.

He wasn't praised so highly at the time. He was highly ranked because he still managed to just about hang on to his Lineage he was knocked down a few places P4P due to his poor performances but still on the list because he managed to sc**** three W's which all easily could have been L's.

Whilst still a good win, Whitaker was obviously well passed it, and declining fast.

Yes, I praise Whitaker/Chavez more highly than Hearns(who I'm also a big fan of).

Like I said, having both those greats on your resume is better than Hearns, which is one. It's my opinion and you think otherwise.

I don't see the relevance.

Even if they were better names they aren't better wins than Hearns was for Hagler.

Did DLH fight a super prime Whitaker/Chavez? Absolutely not! Hagler didn't even fight Hearns at his best weight either(at the current time of fight).


I think to avoid any confusion I'm just going to concentrate more time on your posts and ignore more of others so we can understand each other more.

Hearns wasn't at his best weight I've never said he was but was a legit MW and in the prime of his career.

[GhostBlade]

Hagler would stalk down De La Hoya from the opening bell and pound him to the body and head. No way De La Hoya makes it the full distance unless he runs the whole fight.

[Box-Office]

Oscar was over the hill for Pac and Mayweather.

So whom did he beat? I mean i respect Oscar because he had the mentality of an 80s fighter fighting anyone and everyone, but really hes barely an ATG.


He beat Vargas, Gatti and Ruelas among other B+ fighters and is better than every other fighter today, but really not an ATG.

Chavez Jr and Canelo are superstars, but it certainly doesnt mean theyre ATG with the way their careers are going. Andre Ward how ever is another story.

[IronDanHamza]

Ruelas was suppose to be like the next big challenge and had a possibility to beat Oscar. I remember that shit like it was yesterday. It was specially big with the Mexican/American Cali crowd.

Right but it wasn't a big fight on the scale of things.

Hence why you didn't mention it in your post.

It wasn't a big fight at all.

[RubenSonny]

Wow , so ignorant

Tell me who did Rivera beat to become a top guy?

[IronDanHamza]

It only suits their agenda to be "big" if he lost it.

No not really because Whitaker was definitely a big fight as was Vargas and I and I suppose as was the first Chavez fight and perhaps the Quartey fight.

I've not said anything about "Big fights" and Oscar not being able to win any.