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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #131
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    What card was it on?

    Can't for the life of me remember.
    Bowe defending the title vs the great Jesse Fergeuson,,,

    Was suppose to be mercer, but mercer didnt train for fergueson and got beat in the tune-up, when he allegedly asked jesse have way thru if he would take a dive....

    Hbo and the powers that be actually gave ferguson a title shot,,, By far the most disgusting main event ever, especially if you consider it was for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world,,,,

    A true black eye for boxing

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      #132
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      You think Barrera was prime after 2 wars with Morales? You think Hearns best was at 160?
      Also while Barrera was a great fighter, I don't think he can honestly be talked about as ATG when it comes to skill level like fighters such as Toney and Hopkins.
      Barrera had just beaten undefeated prince and morales and was the featherweight kingpin,,,

      His resume is just as good as hopkins,,, Hopkins gets all this praise because he is old, but beating cloud and pavlik and tarver is not the same as beating prince and morales

      Hearns was prime at 147-160,, he grew into that weight, his body type allowed him,, freak of nature,,, I think he had totally outgrown 147 by 82,, and 154-160 was a better weight for him,,,,,,

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        #133
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        Bowe defending the title vs the great Jesse Fergeuson,,,

        Was suppose to be mercer, but mercer didnt train for fergueson and got beat in the tune-up, when he allegedly asked jesse have way thru if he would take a dive....

        Hbo and the powers that be actually gave ferguson a title shot,,, By far the most disgusting main event ever, especially if you consider it was for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world,,,,

        A true black eye for boxing
        Oh yes.

        Dear oh dear.

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          #134
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Oh yes.

          Dear oh dear.
          lol,,, and the newer fans of the sport have the audacity to complain about klit vs charr and ggg-adama


          Me and you have seen way worse,, especially in the 90s

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            #135
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            Barrera had just beaten undefeated prince and morales and was the featherweight kingpin,,,

            His resume is just as good as hopkins,,, Hopkins gets all this praise because he is old, but beating cloud and pavlik and tarver is not the same as beating prince and morales

            Hearns was prime at 147-160,, he grew into that weight, his body type allowed him,, freak of nature,,, I think he had totally outgrown 147 by 82,, and 154-160 was a better weight for him,,,,,,
            Barerra hadn't JUST beaten prince, that was 2 years before, also... Naseem Hamed. A hard punching showboater famous for being in exciting fights because he wasn't the hardest to hit.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Barrera had just beaten undefeated prince and morales and was the featherweight kingpin,,,

              His resume is just as good as hopkins,,, Hopkins gets all this praise because he is old, but beating cloud and pavlik and tarver is not the same as beating prince and morales

              Hearns was prime at 147-160,, he grew into that weight, his body type allowed him,, freak of nature,,, I think he had totally outgrown 147 by 82,, and 154-160 was a better weight for him,,,,,,
              What meaningful win did Hearns have at 160 and above?

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                #137
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                Barerra hadn't JUST beaten prince, that was 2 years before, also... Naseem Hamed. A hard punching showboater famous for being in exciting fights because he wasn't the hardest to hit.
                Using your logic,, Toney had just gone life and death with dave tiberi only a year prior to roy jones,, so the jones win must not be that big of a deal

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  lol,,, and the newer fans of the sport have the audacity to complain about klit vs charr and ggg-adama


                  Me and you have seen way worse,, especially in the 90s
                  People think all this stuff's new.

                  I saw someone the other day say GBP stacking undercards is some brand new thing.

                  Look at Don King's cards in the 90's he packed them to the roof.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    What meaningful win did Hearns have at 160 and above?
                    prime undefeated olympian, lightheavy champ Virgil hill off the top of my head,,,,

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      What meaningful win did Hearns have at 160 and above?
                      Schuler, Andries, Hill. A few others.

                      All good/solid wins at 160 and above.

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