So Pacman beats Martinez at 154, how??

[BoxingGenius27]

That's the thing, people like this poster above get offended by wanted to Pac to fight Martinez

I have honestly never seen anything like this in my life. Never, have I seen fans get so upset an act like b*tches for asking for a fighter to take a risk against a bigger fighter. Bringing up reach and height for more reasons to be offended about wanting the fight.

Then they bring up Mayweather like some kind of defense mechanism, as if I don't want the same thing from Mayweather

Just look at the posts in this thread. It's honestly ridiculous.

You know what's really interesting Dan?

A few years ago, during the PED speculation, Pac fans were screaming "Manny's always been the same size as Floyd"; hence explaining the weight gain.

Well if Manny and Floyd are the same size, then how do you explain Floyd fighting at 154 and Manny not?

Don't scream "Manny's always been this big" when it fits your objective, but scream "Manny's always been this small" when it doesn't.

If Manny's always been the same size as Floyd like many Pac fans have consistently stated, then he should have no problems fighting at 154.


Unless Pac fans were lying a few years ago, what's the problem?

[IronDanHamza]

You know what's really interesting Dan?

A few years ago, during the PED speculation, Pac fans were screaming "Manny's always been the same size as Floyd"; hence explaining the weight gain.

Well if Manny and Floyd are the same size, then how do you explain Floyd fighting at 154 and Manny not?

Don't scream "Manny's always been this big" when it fits your objective, but scream "Manny's always been this small" when it doesn't.

If Manny's always been the same size as Floyd like many Pac fans have consistently stated, then he should have no problems fighting at 154.


Unless Pac fans were lying a few years ago, what's the problem?

I actually said that in another thread.

I remember when everyone was saying that during the "PED Era" ()

They were saying that from age 16-30 Mayweather and Pacquaio have been the same size and weight respectively. Hell, someone even made a picture strip to prove it. And I agree, I think they are around the same size.

Now, somehow, Mayweather is way bigger than Pacquaio

Not sure which one it is. They sound confused.

I imagine it's just the fact that Martinez is a very big risk to Pacquaio and there's a good chance he might lose. Therefore, instead of wanting Pac to take that risk they would rather get offended at the idea he might lose.

[BoxingGenius27]

I actually said that in another thread.

I remember when everyone was saying that during the "PED Era" ()

They were saying that from age 16-30 Mayweather and Pacquaio have been the same size and weight respectively. Hell, someone even made a picture strip to prove it. And I agree, I think they are around the same size.

Now, somehow, Mayweather is way bigger than Pacquaio

Not sure which one it is. They sound confused.

I imagine it's just the fact that Martinez is a very big risk to Pacquaio and there's a good chance he might lose. Therefore, instead of wanting Pac to take that risk they would rather get offended at the idea he might lose.

145% accurrate.

I don't have a problem with that Dan. But why not just admit that?

It's human nature to like someone as a person and want them to be successful. I understand that. I just don't like when they hide it and change and recreate their stories continuously.

At the end of the day, dissecting their theories has become fun to me; almost like a hobby

[tatangb45]

That's the thing, people like this poster above get offended by wanted to Pac to fight Martinez

I have honestly never seen anything like this in my life. Never, have I seen fans get so upset an act like b*tches for asking for a fighter to take a risk against a bigger fighter. Bringing up reach and height for more reasons to be offended about wanting the fight.

Then they bring up Mayweather like some kind of defense mechanism, as if I don't want the same thing from Mayweather

Just look at the posts in this thread. It's honestly ridiculous.

Did you understand the post. Pac has been fighting bigger guys ever since he moved up to WW. All his fights in that division were all against bigger guys.
Pac has gone up in more divisions, and became champion in those divisions, than anyone in the history of boxing.
And if you guys are not still satisfied with what Pac has achieved, then you are the ones with issues, not Pac nor the people who consider his achievements to be more than enough.

[IronDanHamza]

Did you understand the post. Pac has been fighting bigger guys ever since he moved up to WW. All his fights in that division were all against bigger guys.
Pac has gone up in more divisions, and became champion in those divisions, than anyone in the history of boxing.
And if you guys are not still satisfied with what Pac has achieved, then you are the ones with issues, not Pac nor the people who consider his achievements to be more than enough.

And? So that means he can't fight anymore?

Like I said, Pacquaio doesn't need Martinez. He's already an ATG. I don't blame him nor will I hold it against him if he doesn't fight him.

But, it's a fight, a winnable fight for Pac. And, one that will enhance him from being around a Top 40 ATG to around a Top 25 ATG.

Would I like to see that? Hell yeah I would. Why not?

Why don't you want to see it? Why are you so against it? I don't understand.

[VaBoriKua2012]

Like this he turns on his game console with fight night champions in the console downloads a sergio character online then proceeds to pick pac vs sergio n he picks sergio n basically lets who ever has pac beat him down. Other than that it won't happen unless its at 150

[Yogi007]

Pac, Floyd, Cotto, or any other current welterweight, looses to Martinez at 154.

[JDezi4]

I think most people r counting on a weight-drained Martinez, cuz I can't see it any other way than a Martinez KO

But what I am curious of is how Floyd beats Martinez... Not that I don't think he can, I would just favor Martinez and want to know what people think

[SplitSecond]

Pac, Floyd, Cotto, or any other current welterweight, looses to Martinez at 154.

i dont know about any welterweight, but pacquiao and cotto sure do

maybe if sergio was flatfooted like pavlik or feather fisted like valuev, or had a wack chin like wlad

only an idiot thinks pacquiao martinez is a legit fight, it can't happen at 154, it can't happen below because martinez would be drained

[tatangb45]

You know what's really interesting Dan?

A few years ago, during the PED speculation, Pac fans were screaming "Manny's always been the same size as Floyd"; hence explaining the weight gain.

Well if Manny and Floyd are the same size, then how do you explain Floyd fighting at 154 and Manny not?

Don't scream "Manny's always been this big" when it fits your objective, but scream "Manny's always been this small" when it doesn't.

If Manny's always been the same size as Floyd like many Pac fans have consistently stated, then he should have no problems fighting at 154.


Unless Pac fans were lying a few years ago, what's the problem?

You still don't get it. Pac has been taking risks ever since he moved up to WW. All his fights in that division were all against bigger and/or heavier guys.

Btw, Pac and Floyd are not the same size. They might have weighed the same at a certain age, but that was when they were both still maturing. They definitely are not anymore.