So Pacman beats Martinez at 154, how??

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Speak for yourself, I see no version of Pacman surviving 12 much less/far less winning/ even lesser scoring a ko.

Yeah that's how deluded this pactard is.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

He wouldn't beat Martinez!

Martinez is too SLICK and too quick...LATERALLY! He is not a fighter that only goes forward or backwards, Martinez can fight going backwards, forward...as well as fighting moving LATERALLY to his left or right which not many fighters can do

Martinez could stay outside and just PICK MANNY APART with his height and reach advantage

[pnksntdead]

pac fan here but he won't beat martinez at 154 and he'd be pretty crazy to even try going up to that weight. manny came in at under 147 for his 150 fight against margarito. upping the weight limit does nothing for him as he would still have to come in at around 147 to avoid losing speed from bulking up. in effect, he will be giving away 7 lbs at weigh-in and around 20 lbs on fight night to a guy who's freakishly strong and fast at 160.

he'll get in more shots against martinez but those won't do enough damage to slow him down. martinez will wear him down and eventually knock him out later (or earlier if he gets hit by that shot that got williams).

i'd give him a 50/50 shot if the met at 150 lbs and about an 80% chance if they were both natural at the same weight (eliminating size differences and just going by style/skill).

i expect floyd to fairly easily outbox martinez at 154 and play with him at 150