So Pacman beats Martinez at 154, how??

[HeroBando]

Yeah, because Pacquaio and Marco Huck have campaigned at or near the same weight classes.

That is the epitome of an unrealistic fight. If people were asking for Pacquaio to fight Marco Huck then I would understand. This is Martinez, who can make 154, a weight limit that Pacquaio has fought 4 Lbs under.

I don't see why Martinez and Ward can't fight. Of course Martinez would be at a size disadvantage but can Martinez win that fight? Why not. Bigger upsets have happened and I'd pay to see it.

I don't think Martinez would win but does that mean I should be offended that others would like to see it happen? Nah.

Again, Pacquiao is not ducking Martinez IMO neither is Martinez ducking Ward IMO but would I love to see Pac fight Martinez just as much as I'd like to see Martinez challenge himself against a bigger fighter in Ward.

I don't see the problem here.

Because he has a pain threshold, and sounds like it's at 147. His chin has already surpassed reasonable expectations, the guy gets hit plenty across 8 divs or whatever. You give him a good chance, but how well do you think he'll be able to take Sergio's punches? He'd basically have to avoid getting hit much, which will be much tougher against Sergio than Margo. He might as well go for Shumenov, that would be massive legacy wise.

[hhs661]

lol @ Manny beating Martinez... I guess that'd be true if they fought @ 146 for the SMW Title of the World

[IronDanHamza]

conn is 6'1, he should damn well be able to run make any class in shape somewhat to hearns degree
cooper for example was also 6'1, fighters today after the weigh in will put on 15lbs of fluids

so that huge weigh disparity is mainly fluids, while maybe 4-5 is actually muscle in a same day weigh in

so pacquiao vs martinez is alot more than that

[straightleft]

Well in fact you aren't the only man here to have laced up a pair bro. However by your logic if 2 lb's meant nothing, then why did the fight need to be at 145 to begin with?? Further more take those same 2 lb's & let Cotto weight 150 in 2012 when Pacman chose him but no higher than 148, (since 2lb's means nothing & all).

Actually it was 1 lb only. Cottos last fight before the Pac fight he weighed in at 146 and 5 months away to the Pac fight. Those 1 lb he can actually shred it off in one day but he had 5 months to do it safely and he did!

You didnt mention Pac last fight before the Cotto fight was against Hatton where he weighed at 138. By fighting Cotto at 145 Pac has to move 7 lbs above. 7 lbs > 1 lb now if you can see that. If Pac can move up 7 lbs above to fight a challenging fighter why Martinez cant do the same at 167? You as fan you should push for that but you are going backward and picking the smaller man.

[IronDanHamza]

Because he has a pain threshold, and sounds like it's at 147. His chin has already surpassed reasonable expectations, the guy gets hit plenty across 8 divs or whatever. You give him a good chance, but how well do you think he'll be able to take Sergio's punches? He'd basically have to avoid getting hit much, which will be much tougher against Sergio than Margo. He might as well go for Shumenov, that would be massive legacy wise.

I think he'd take some hard shots but I think his chin is good enough to hold up against it.

It'd be a tough night but I think he could pull it off.

He's that good, IMO.

Again, I don't see why that is a problem or offensive.

I genuinely don't care whether the fight happens or not and he won't be ducking him if he doesn't. Like I said, at this point, he doesn't need to take it, it's understandable.

But I'm sorry that I would love to see it were it to happen.

[SplitSecond]

Pacquaio fighting Paul Williams is unrealistic, he's at a disadvantage.

Only an idiot would want to see that fight.

Pacquaio being at a big disadvantage is not allowed.

Actually, forget that, if the fighter is shot it's ok but if they aren't then you're an idiot. Of course.

i didn't mean to drive you to this, i hope you dont start slashing your wrists

[BoxingGenius27]

Pacquaio fighting Paul Williams is unrealistic, he's at a disadvantage.

Only an idiot would want to see that fight.

Pacquaio being at a big disadvantage is not allowed.

Actually, forget that, if the fighter is shot it's ok but if they aren't then you're an idiot. Of course.

The ideaology in this place.

[Bushbaby]

Actually it was 1 lb only. Cottos last fight before the Pac fight he weighed in at 146 and 5 months away to the Pac fight. Those 1 lb he can actually shred it off in one day but he had 5 months to do it safely and he did!

You didnt mention Pac last fight before the Cotto fight was against Hatton where he weighed at 138. By fighting Cotto at 145 Pac has to move 7 lbs above. 7 lbs > 1 lb now if you can see that. If Pac can move up 7 lbs above to fight a challenging fighter why Martinez cant do the same at 167? You as fan you should push for that but you are going backward and picking the smaller man.

If you don't know what you're talking about concerning weight, why talk?? Weighing 146 of his own accord is not the same as being forced to weight no more than 145. Learn this then return.

[straightleft]

If you don't know what you're talking about concerning weight, why talk?? Weighing 146 of his own accord is not the same as being forced to weight no more than 145. Learn this then return.

LOL! Martinez is fighting at 160 so moving down to 154 means he has to cut down 6 lbs from his muscle. You didnt give Pacquaio credit when he beat Cotto who just moved down 1 lb. and has 5 months to safely shred the extra lb. What makes you think you can fool us that you will give Pacquaio some credit if he somehow beat Martinez at 154? LOL

[Bushbaby]

LOL! Martinez is fighting at 160 so moving down to 154 means he has to cut down 6 lbs from his muscle. You didnt give Pacquaio credit when he beat Cotto who just moved down 1 lb. What makes you think you can fool us that you will give Pacquaio some credit if he somehow beat Martinez at 154? LOL

LOL, weight doesn't mean anything, that's why when 1st they met, Pacman needed a 2lb mannyweight. But wait.....................when he chose him in early 2012, he also needed a mannyweight no higher than 148. (If weight doesn't matter, or 2 lbs, why does he insist on unhealthy mannyweights then)??