So Pacman beats Martinez at 154, how??

[BoxingGenius27]

[QUOTE=tatangb45;11909454]

You seem to be getting confused again.

Isn't the whole topic we're on about gaining weight to fight at 154?

[tatangb45]

Actually Duran (5'7) fought Barkley (6'1) at Middleweight, while weighing 156 lbs. Isn't the limit for Middleweight 160?

Do you consider that "making" weight?

156 is within the MW division. You really are getting confused.

[tatangb45]

[QUOTE=BoxingGenius27;11909459]

Isn't the whole topic we're on about gaining weight to fight at 154?

The whole topic is Pac can hardly make 147 and you keep demanding that he has to go up to 154 and face the MW champion..

You are definitely confused.

See ya.

[BoxingGenius27]

156 is within the MW division. You really are getting confused.

Ok but you said that Duran "made" the weight while he was the same size as Manny during his move up in weight. I'm just showing you, not only did he fight a guy bigger than Martinez, but he also didn't make the weight of 160. He came in 4 lb's under.

You said "no one" has ever faced similar adversities as Manny. I'm just proving to you how that's an incorrect statement.

You're right, Manny doesn't have to do anything. Just don't put him in the same sentence as Duran, Mayweather and a few others who have met similar challenges head on. That's all.

[Light_Speed]

I bet your favorite shape's a triangle?

Please read what I said, then STFU!

Here's what you said "I maintain that if Pac can bring his old badazz self, he's gonna KO Martinez."

You can argue the possibility of a decision victory for Pac, it wouldn't be that far fetched but a KO win? Even buboy would laugh at your ass for being such a ****rider.

[IronDanHamza]

What I'm saying is that Pac has done enough. There comes a time when one has to say enough is enough. Pac himself admits that he has reached his limit at 147. And his limit has gone beyond what anyone has achieved in the history of boxing. Staying at WW is his prerogative and staying there will not diminish his legacy.

One has to question the real motives of people who still want or even demand that Pac should go even higher. It becomes more su****ious when you consider that most of these are coming from fans of Pac's main rival.

Pac hasn't done enough. Not to be considered a Top 25 ATG he hasn't.

Fighting Martinez opens the door to that level. So no, he hasn't done enough. He's done alot, yes. But not enough.

I never said it will diminish his legacy Where are you getting this from?

Again, I'm not demanding Pac to fight Martinez. I simply would love to see it.

Now your just being paranoid. Su****ious?

I want Mayweather to do the exact same thing.

[IronDanHamza]

156 is within the MW division. You really are getting confused.

156 is the MW Division just like 141-147 is the Welterweight Division.

So Pacquaio and Duran are in the same boat in that regard.

Duran was a very small Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.

His fans didn't cry and complain when people liked the idea of him moving up even further and look what he was able to do when he did.

[M Bison]

Pacquiao can hardly make 147?
Well If Roach starts handing him some more of those hands pills he will have no problem at all making 154.

[M Bison]

156 is the MW Division just like 141-147 is the Welterweight Division.

So Pacquaio and Duran are in the same boat in that regard.

Duran was a very small Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.

His fans didn't cry and complain when people liked the idea of him moving up even further and look what he was able to do when he did.

Roberto Duran is a completely different type of fighter though he wanted to fight everybody and anybody but with today's age I doubt Mr Bob Arum would allow Pacquiao to have that fight with Martinez...
I mean soon people will be saying why doesn't Pacquiao fight the winner of Froch and Bute?

[IronDanHamza]

Roberto Duran is a completely different type of fighter though he wanted to fight everybody and anybody but with today's age I doubt Mr Bob Arum would allow Pacquiao to have that fight with Martinez...
I mean soon people will be saying why doesn't Pacquiao fight the winner of Froch and Bute?

I don't consider that the same.

Pacquaio-Martinez is a realistic fight that can happen and Pac can win, IMO.