Comments Thread For: Team Bute: Hopkins a Good "Plan B" if No Ward, Froch

[jrosales13]

I just don't understand how Bute can fight such weak opposition over the last few years and people not realize this dude is #1 by default.

Heck, even Jro admitted that Bute's best wins came years ago and not within the last few years during the SS. That in itself should tell someone that Bute has been floating under the radar while the SS contestants have been going at it.

But, if that is the case then Andre Dirrell and Mikkel Kessler should be rank ahead of him.

So there's no default here...He has earned his top spot. To be ranked ahead of both of them.

[BoxingGenius27]

Are you insinuating the JCC Jr and Bute have similar resumes?

And, I already said a resume doesn't get weaker. And, mentioned that Johnson is still a solid win. But, the wins over Berrio, Bika, and Andrade are better than the wins you gave him.

Insinuating? What do you think?

What do you mean a resume doesn't get weaker; let's hear your latest attempt at word play even though you know what I mean.

I gave you Bute's last 3 opponents. You gave me opponents that happened years ago that you thought were better than Bute's last 3 opponents. You tell me how that's not getting weaker?

We all know that the Johnson Bute beat is nowhere near the Johnson that everyone knows.

[BoxingGenius27]

But, if that is the case then Andre Dirrell and Mikkel Kessler should be rank ahead of him.

So there's no default here...He has earned his top spot. To be ranked ahead of both of them.

No, try again.

Dirrel and Kessler both lost in the most competitive tourny. That's the only reason they're not ranked higher.

[jrosales13]

Insinuating? What do you think?

What do you mean a resume doesn't get weaker; let's hear your latest attempt at word play even though you know what I mean.

I gave you Bute's last 3 opponents. You gave me opponents that happened years ago that you thought were better than Bute's last 3 opponents. You tell me how that's not getting weaker?

We all know that the Johnson Bute beat is nowhere near the Johnson that everyone knows.

But, it's still a solid Johnson..

So you're insinuating that Bute and JCC Jr have similar resumes? If so then this conversation. There's no need to go further.

[jrosales13]

No, try again.

Dirrel and Kessler both lost in the most competitive tourny. That's the only reason they're not ranked higher.

Hold on Dirrell by some, maybe most won the fight that he "lost". And, even then went on to get a win "in the most competitive tourney"

Kessler went on to get a win "in the most competitive tourney" matter of fact beat the guy who lost in the finals.

That win against Froch for Kessler should surpass anything that Bute, if Bute hasn't done a damn thing of course.

That close questionable lost to Dirrell mixed win with his win. Shouldn't be enough for Bute to surpass him if Bute hasn't done anything of course.

When did an "L" become such a big deal? That it automatically moves you down. Especially if you're "in the most competitive tourney"?

[BoxingGenius27]

But, it's still a solid Johnson..

So you're insinuating that Bute and JCC Jr have similar resumes? If so then this conversation. There's no need to go further.

Exactly, because you know Bute's resume is garbage.

No it wasn't a solid Johnson. Do you know how many countless people called "foul" when the Johnson vs Bute fight was made? Once again you're showing your selective memory, but you can remember something 50 years ago.

You can't even call Green solid when he only had one loss, but you're calling Johnson solid at 15 losses while directly coming off a loss? Come on man.

Bute's best wins are against Bika and Andrade. Besides them, Bute's resume isn't that far from Chavez Jr. You're over here acting like Bute has the better resume hands down.

He might have more "names', but we all know by the time Bute fought the "names" on his resume, they were nowhere near the fighters that got them those names in the first place. Let's stop this.

[jrosales13]

Anthony Dirrell didn't join the S6...He's undefeated.

Where is he rank exactly in the top 10 at 168?

I mean by default how come he isn't rank #1 to Ward lineal title?

[BoxingGenius27]

Hold on Dirrell by some, maybe most won the fight that he "lost". And, even then went on to get a win "in the most competitive tourney"

Kessler went on to get a win "in the most competitive tourney" matter of fact beat the guy who lost in the finals.

That win against Froch for Kessler should surpass anything that Bute, if Bute hasn't done a damn thing of course.

That close questionable lost to Dirrell mixed win with his win. Shouldn't be enough for Bute to surpass him if Bute hasn't done anything of course.

When did an "L" become such a big deal? That it automatically moves you down. Especially if you're "in the most competitive tourney"?

You know the answer to these silly questions you're asking. We all know how the tourny has played out the last few years and how Bute got the top spot after it.

You acting dense is not going to make me break down an answer you already know. Why are you trying to play ****** like you don't know what's happen the last few years?

[jrosales13]

Exactly, because you know Bute's resume is garbage.

No it wasn't a solid Johnson. Do you know how many countless people called "foul" when the Johnson vs Bute fight was made? Once again you're showing your selective memory, but you can remember something 50 years ago.

You can't even call Green solid when he only had one loss, but you're calling Johnson solid at 15 while directly coming off a loss? Come on man.

Bute's best wins are against Bika and Andrade. Besides them, Bute's resume isn't that far from Chavez Jr. You're over here acting like Bute has the better resume hands down.

He might have more "names', but we all know by the time Bute fought the "names" on his resume, they were nowhere near the fighters that got them those names in the first place. Let's stop this.

He has a better resume hands down over JCC Jr more importantly than who is when...So I don't go by the name sake. Just pure resume hands down without a doubt.

Hell Berrio is a better win than Zbik, Manfredo, or Duddy.

Maybe if JCC Jr beats Rubio then we can really debate. But, until then I won't even bother.

And, yes Johnson was a solid win.

[BoxingGenius27]

Anthony Dirrell didn't join the S6...He's undefeated.

Where is he rank exactly in the top 10 at 168?

I mean by default how come he isn't rank #1 to Ward lineal title?

Because Dirrel hasn't fought the "named" fighters Bute has. Not even close, that's why.

Dirrel is the mandatory for Ward, but in my opinion, he doesn't deserve to fight Ward either.

Dirrel bros, Bute, Kessler, Froch, B-hop, Cloud and others need to fight other fights first before being considered for a shot at Ward.

You know this. Why are you acting dense?