Comments Thread For: Team Bute: Hopkins a Good "Plan B" if No Ward, Froch

[jrosales13]

What you don't understand for some reason is in this case "RANKING" means nothing, nada, zelch!!

What don't you understand about the fact that Bute being ranked #1, doesn't erase the fact that his resume isn't too far from Chavez Jr... Get this whole ranking business out of your little head lol

Bute's resume stinks and you and everybody else knows it. Bute's not fighting ward next because he doesn't deserve it; forget about this ranking thing that you've created.

LOL @ really believing JCC Jr has a similar resume...You should get that out of your little head.

And, yea Ward is not going to fight Bute next. Not because he doesn't deserve it. But, more so because of trying to make the fight even bigger. Which I have no problem with.

Again if Bute resume stinks then how in Gods name is he rank #1?

Not by the rankings I created. I don't got that kind of pull to create these rankings.

http://ring tv.craveonline.com/ratings/super-middleweight

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=6402207

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=boxing-ratings

Even a freaken CPU system like boxrec.
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...20Middleweight

These rankings I didn't create. Now I do have my own set of rankings. And, I have Bute right behind Ward. But, this what most independent rankings feel.

Again how is the #1 contender not deserving? But, Ward doesn't have to fight him now. He doesn't, you're right in that. Ward can go have a gimme or fight one of the Dirrel brothers in Oakland. That's fine. Bute, can go and fight Froch and whoever. But, does the fight need to happen at one point? Yes it does.

[BoxingGenius27]

I don't think Ward is obligated to fight him immediately. But Bute definitely "deserves" to fight Ward at this moment in time, period. He's right behind Ward in the division. ******, ****** discussion.

Who's Bute's best win on his resume?

Let's hear your "facts" on why Bute "deserves" Ward lol

Come on, go ahead and throw Bika and Andrade out there... Fights that happened like 2 and 4 years ago LMAO

[BoxingGenius27]

LOL @ really believing JCC Jr has a similar resume...You should get that out of your little head.

And, yea Ward is not going to fight Bute next. Not because he doesn't deserve it. But, more so because of trying to make the fight even bigger. Which I have no problem with.

Again if Bute resume stinks then how in Gods name is he rank #1?

Not by the rankings I created. I don't got that kind of pull to create these rankings.

http://ring tv.craveonline.com/ratings/super-middleweight

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=6402207

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=boxing-ratings

Even a freaken CPU system like boxrec.
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...20Middleweight

These rankings I didn't create. Now I do have my own set of rankings. And, I have Bute right behind Ward. But, this what most independent rankings feel.

Again how is the #1 contender not deserving? But, Ward doesn't have to fight him now. He doesn't, you're right in that. Ward can go have a gimme or fight one of the Dirrel brothers in Oakland. That's fine. Bute, can go and fight Froch and whoever. But, does the fight need to happen at one point? Yes it does.

1. Why are you copy and pasting something I already acknowledged? Yes, Bute's #1...

2. Yes, the Ward vs Bute fight needs to happen "after" Bute proves himself.

Geez, if you spent more time arguing how Bute's resume is title shot worthy, maybe we would get somewhere. Since "rankings" are the only thing you have to justify this unworthy title shot, you're clinging to it like Stallone in a scene from Cliffhanger. Log off.

[jrosales13]

I've already answered your question. Read the thread again.

Why are you still talking about this #1 ranking deal as if it matters lol

Listen, Ward isn't fighting Bute next for a reason.

You're doing more arguing for Bute not fighting Ward, then Bute himself lol

Why do you think that is? Why do you think Bute isn't running to the commission demanding an immediate shot at Ward even though he's ranked #1? Why do you think that is sir?

Matter of fact, all you guys that think Bute should fight Ward next, why isn't the mainstream media, Team Bute, and the commissions not mandating Ward vs Bute next??

Because they see the same thing everyone else see's that's why. Log off.

What commission should mandate Ward-Bute?

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Who's Bute's best win on his resume?

Let's hear your "facts" on why Bute "deserves" Ward lol

Come on, go ahead and throw Bika and Andrade out there... Fights that happened like 2 and 4 years ago LMAO

Because his resume is the best resume out of all the relevant 168'ers that Ward hasn't already beaten (unless you count Johnson, whom Bute just beat). Who do you think Ward should be fighting? WHO? What super-fights should Ward be reserving himself for now, if none of the rated SMW guys are in the picture?



FWIW. I can't stand Lucian Bute. He's a ****ing overrated twat and I can't wait 'til he's KTFO brutally (again). Ward, on the other hand, has been my guy since '04.

But you're not making any sense. At all.

[jrosales13]

1. Why are you copy and pasting something I already acknowledged? Yes, Bute's #1...

2. Yes, the Ward vs Bute fight needs to happen "after" Bute proves himself.

Geez, if you spent more time arguing how Bute's resume is title shot worthy, maybe we would get somewhere. Since "rankings" are the only thing you have to justify this unworthy title shot, you're clinging to it like Stallone in Cliffhanger. Log off.

If he's resume is good enough for being the #1 contender to the lineal title then his resume is good enough for being Lineal title shot worthy.

[jrosales13]

Because his resume is the best resume out of all the relevant 168'ers that Ward hasn't already beaten (unless you count Johnson, whom Bute just beat). Who do you think Ward should be fighting? WHO? What super-fights should Ward be reserving himself for now, if none of the rated SMW guys are in the picture?


I can't stand Lucian Bute. He's a ****ing twat and I can't wait 'til he's KTFO brutally (again). Ward, on the other hand, has been my guy since '04. But, you're not making any sense. At all.

He feels that Ward shouldn't fight at all...Sit out until a proven guy emerges.

[BoxingGenius27]

Because his resume is the best resume out of all the relevant 168'ers that Ward hasn't already beaten (unless you count Johnson, whom Bute just beat). Who do you think Ward should be fighting? WHO? What super-fights should Ward be reserving himself for now, if none of the rated SMW guys are in the picture?


I can't stand Lucian Bute. He's a ****ing twat and I can't wait 'til he's KTFO brutally (again). Ward, on the other hand, has been my guy since '04. But, you're not making any sense. At all.

I'm making all the sense in the world and I would say the general public agrees that Bute hasn't done anything but watch the SS for the last few years. Everyone knows this. Where have you been?

Once again, at this stage "no one" deserves a shot a Ward. They all need to fight each other to determine the next contender.

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Ward's new fans are a bunch of ****suckers.

I guess I would've expected that well in advance if I'd ever contemplated the aftermath of him winning the Super Six.

[jrosales13]

I'm making all the sense in the world and I would say the general public agrees that Bute hasn't done anything but watch the SS for the last few years. Everyone knows this. Where have you been?

Once again, at this stage "no one" deserves a shot a Ward. They all need to fight each other to determine the next contender.

They should have another S6 while Ward sits out and fights the winner of it.