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  • jrosales13
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    #141
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
    You know the answer to these silly questions you're asking. We all know how the tourny has played out the last few years and how Bute got the top spot after it.

    You acting dense is not going to make me break down an answer you already know. Why are you trying to play ****** like you don't know what's happen the last few years?
    Berto received an "L" that "L" its not enough to warrant Senchenko to be rank over him. Ortiz received an "L" it's not enough to have that same Senchenko to be ranked over him.

    If a fighter is doing nothing but fighting cans. While a guy is getting questionable "L's" and/or winning against top competition. Then that's not enough for that "tomato can beater" to get rank ahead of him.

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    • JED46
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      #142
      Originally posted by LeadUppercut
      I have not seen one person make that comment.
      You've gotta be joking. Lots of people have been saying that over the last few days.

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      • jrosales13
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        #143
        Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
        Because Dirrel hasn't fought the "named" fighters Bute has. Not even close, that's why.

        Dirrel is the mandatory for Ward, but in my opinion, he doesn't deserve to fight Ward either.

        Dirrel bros, Bute, Kessler, Froch, B-hop, Cloud and others need to fight other fights first before being considered for a shot at Ward.

        You know this. Why are you acting dense?
        Names in the bold are not #1 contender to Ward lineal title...Bute is.

        Who cares about the names....More importantly than who is when...So the names doesn't matter.

        Who do you rank higher, Anthony or Bute?

        The dense one is the guy that's saying...Hey you only fight twice a year, even though you're an elite P4P fighter, the one who's going to be the man of the new era go ahead sit out and become more inactive. That's F'ing dense.

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          #144
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Berto received an "L" that "L" its not enough to warrant Senchenko to be rank over him. Ortiz received an "L" it's not enough to have that same Senchenko to be ranked over him.

          If a fighter is doing nothing but fighting cans. While a guy is getting questionable "L's" and/or winning against top competition. Then that's not enough for that "tomato can beater" to get rank ahead of him.
          Great, let's forget about Bute's last 3 fights and give him a shot at the SS winner.

          While we're at it, let's forget Shane's last 3 fights and do the same.

          FYI, going off your example:

          Berto = Bute
          Senchenko = Dirrel

          At the end of the day, all 4 don't deserve a title shot. Try again.

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #145
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Names in the bold are not #1 contender to Ward lineal title...Bute is.

            Who cares about the names....More importantly than who is when...So the names doesn't matter.

            Who do you rank higher, Anthony or Bute?

            The dense one is the guy that's saying...Hey you only fight twice a year, even though you're an elite P4P fighter, the one who's going to be the man of the new era go ahead sit out and become more inactive. That's F'ing dense.
            What you don't understand for some reason is in this case "RANKING" means nothing, nada, zelch!!

            What don't you understand about the fact that Bute being ranked #1, doesn't erase the fact that his resume isn't too far from Chavez Jr... Get this whole ranking business out of your little head lol

            Bute's resume stinks and you and everybody else knows it. Bute's not fighting ward next because he doesn't deserve it; forget about this ranking thing that you've created.

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            • jrosales13
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              #146
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              Great, let's forget about Bute's last 3 fights and give him a shot at the SS winner.

              While we're at it, let's forget Shane's last 3 fights and do the same.

              FYI, going off your example:

              Berto = Bute
              Senchenko = Dirrel

              At the end of the day, all 4 don't deserve a title shot. Try again.
              Forget what? Again why should Shane get a shot again?

              Well I don't see how Berto=Bute...Obviously you didn't get the example and you should try again.

              Again, how is Bute the #1 contender by default if he hasn't done anything worth mentioning?

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                #147
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                Because Dirrel hasn't fought the "named" fighters Bute has. Not even close, that's why.

                Dirrel is the mandatory for Ward, but in my opinion, he doesn't deserve to fight Ward either.Dirrel bros, Bute, Kessler, Froch, B-hop, Cloud and others need to fight other fights first before being considered for a shot at Ward.

                You know this. Why are you acting dense?
                You're going a bit overboard bro, by this ideal everybody else has weaker resumes so they need to bolster them while Ward should be allowed to fight lesser opposition hence weaking his resume evening out the standards

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  That is exactly right, that is exactly what Bute is. He is "the top choice by default".

                  He gets to walk-around all of the Super-6 competitors straight into a shot at the champ.

                  Ward is the man at 168, and he should not be "required" to do anything except fight his mandatory. Bute next would be fine, and that fight has to happen if Bute remains relevant, but it aint gonna hurt Bute to get a notable defense on his resume' in the meantime, because he aint done ***-all to date.
                  Indeed, Ward is the man. He's the Ring champ, and that's exactly why he should fight the Ring #1 contender, Bute. Do you really give more credence to his alphabet title mandatory, Anthony Dirrell? haha. That's funny. That's fine as a *soft touch*, but his real obligation is his Ring #1 contender. If both sides want the fight, anyway. We'll see.

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                  • BoxingGenius27
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Again, how is Bute the #1 contender by default if he hasn't done anything worth mentioning?
                    I've already answered your question. Read the thread again.

                    Why are you still talking about this #1 ranking deal as if it matters lol

                    Listen, Ward isn't fighting Bute next for a reason.

                    You're doing more arguing for Bute not fighting Ward, then Bute himself lol

                    Why do you think that is? Why do you think Bute isn't running to the commission demanding an immediate shot at Ward even though he's ranked #1? Why do you think that is sir?

                    Matter of fact, all you guys that think Bute should fight Ward next, why isn't the mainstream media, Team Bute, and the commissions not mandating Ward vs Bute next??

                    Because they see the same thing everyone else see's that's why. Log off.

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                    • PEBBLES!
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                      #150
                      I don't think Ward is obligated to fight him immediately and I don't believe Team Ward would be the sole impasse to the fight happening (whatever the noise coming from Bute's camp), BUT; Bute definitely "deserves" to fight Ward at this moment in time, period. He's right behind Ward in the division. ******, ****** discussion.

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