Manny Pacquiao's resume hasn't improved since 2009 !!

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  • straightleft
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    #131
    Originally posted by Motofan
    I'm with you on this one. I cant blame him for cashing in on easy fights with big names who are far past their best days, but it sucks to see him waste whats left of his prime years on meaningless fights.
    But then you can't tell us who he should fight around his weight class in those giving time frame. The fact that he can beat them all easily except that coward who doesn't want any part of Pacquiao. According to the ts Pac should fought other fighters instead of Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and JMM. Then who he should fight back then? From year 2010 the only other logical fighters for Pacquiao to fight around his weight class are....

    Ander Berto
    Mike Jones
    Kell Brokes

    All above at that time was considered too young, inexperienced, too green, etc. Pac still will be crucified for a lesser money. If Pac fought them instead, you people will sing a different tune. like "Pac avoided the elite welterweights, ducked Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, ducked Marquez rematch and fought inexperienced, too green, not ready and too young fighters."
    Last edited by straightleft; 11-09-2011, 03:05 AM.

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    • thatjamaicanguy
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      #132
      considering what Bob "The ass" Arum is doing with Pacquiao's career, his prime was his featherweight/lightweight days.

      I haven't seen anything as thrilling as Pacquiao's Mexican Assassin days.

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      • Bushbaby
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        #133
        Originally posted by tatangb45
        Why? Because after beating Cotto, he became the champion, and he's been defending his title after that.
        In the case of Floyd, he wins a title from Baldomir, defends it against a LWW Hatton, retires and loses his title, fights 2 non-title fights, then picks on a weak champion in Ortiz. And viola! He fought more champions at WW.

        Now, does anyone want to compare how many champions these two boxers have fought from the start of their professional careers?
        Never try to argue a fact with random rubbish. Mosley had a title & was lineal welterweight champion.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #134
          I still say the Clottey win is really underrated. Clottey was no bum at the time, no matter what effort he put forth in that fight. That was the last fight I was really impressed with Pacquiao in.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #135
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            I still say the Clottey win is really underrated. Clottey was no bum at the time, no matter what effort he put forth in that fight. That was the last fight I was really impressed with Pacquiao in.
            Definately, no one has beaten Clottey & made it look almost easy. Kinda like what the Punisher did to Winky. I was very impressed with that fight. Like I said earlier IMO that was Pacman's best performance above 140. There was no catchweight involved & Clottey was supposed to be dangerous. But that fight also killed the (well he doesn't draw excuse) because how can a man say that ever again considering Clottey had no fanbase?

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            • -Lowkey-
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              #136
              ODL (Past prime weight drained)

              Hatton (Past prime)

              Cotto (Damaged goods, on the slide, catch weight)

              Clottey (Coming off a loss to Cotto)

              Margarito (Damaged goods, weight drained, coming off suspension and a brutal beatdown my Mosley in his last meaningful fight)

              Shane Mosley (Past prime coming off draw to Mora and one sided beating by Mayweather)

              Marquez (38 years old and fighting 2 weight classes above his chosen weight class)

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              • bojangles1987
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                #137
                Originally posted by -Lowkey-
                ODL (Past prime weight drained)

                Hatton (Past prime)

                Cotto (Damaged goods, on the slide, catch weight)

                Clottey (Coming off a loss to Cotto)

                Margarito (Damaged goods, weight drained, coming off suspension and a brutal beatdown my Mosley in his last meaningful fight)

                Shane Mosley (Past prime coming off draw to Mora and one sided beating by Mayweather)

                Marquez (38 years old and fighting 2 weight classes above his chosen weight class)
                Yet Oscar cherry picked him and was supposed to kill him and Hatton and Cotto were both considered too big and going to beat him. Revisionist history is easy, it's remembering the opinion on those fights beforehand that is key.

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                • Toyman
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                  #138
                  Im not sure why people are trying to discredit the margarito fight. He outweighed pac by a lot and it was a big risk for pac.. he even said afterwards that it was the toughest fight in his life.


                  The mosley fight was also impressive - how many times has someone KD'd mosley, let alone have him run from you for 9 rounds.

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                  • -Lowkey-
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Yet Oscar cherry picked him and was supposed to kill him and Hatton and Cotto were both considered too big and going to beat him. Revisionist history is easy, it's remembering the opinion on those fights beforehand that is key.
                    Pac was heavy favourite against both Hatton and Cotto, looking back at the fight although most people thought Oscar would win you can’t seriously give him credit Oscar had nothing he looked like a corpse in there.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      Yet Oscar cherry picked him and was supposed to kill him and Hatton and Cotto were both considered too big and going to beat him. Revisionist history is easy, it's remembering the opinion on those fights beforehand that is key.
                      Hatton and Cotto were good wins for Pacquaio, no doubt.

                      But they weren't expected to win against Pac, no way. Atleast not by anyone who knows Boxing.

                      They were both reasonably heavy under-dog's against Pac in every single Bookie's for a very good reason.

                      I didn't expect Cotto to be destroyed like he was which was impressive but expected a one-sided fight.

                      And Pac-Hatton went exactly how I expected. Well, I predicted a Round 3 KO.

                      Again, both are very good wins and legacy enhancers in my book. But, they certainly weren't expected to win.

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