Manny Pacquiao's resume hasn't improved since 2009 !!

[bojangles1987]

Hatton and Cotto were good wins for Pacquaio, no doubt.

But they weren't expected to win against Pac, no way. Atleast not by anyone who knows Boxing.

They were both reasonably heavy under-dog's against Pac in every single Bookie's for a very good reason.

I didn't expect Cotto to be destroyed like he was which was impressive but expected a one-sided fight.

And Pac-Hatton went exactly how I expected. Well, I predicted a Round 3 KO.

Again, both are very good wins and legacy enhancers in my book. But, they certainly weren't expected to win.

I don't pay attention to oddsmakers, I'm going strictly off what I heard from fans beforehand, and not just here on NSB. Cotto was considered 50-50 from what I remember, and very few thought Pac would destroy him. Hatton was an underdog, but it was probably 60-40 Pac.

[Bullrider]

I completely agree, and the only real alternative at the time as an opponent. Was Andre Berto and JMM. Berto as many suspected was not up to the task, and Pac's currently slated to fight JMM. If cleaning out all the relevant names around Pac's weight is a waste of time, then yes. Pac wasted his time.

That's pretty much the scenario at the time. Paqciao's team clearly wanted Floyd. Unfortunately, things didn't work out well. The alternatives were not exactly what you call life-threatening to Pac's career -- Berto, Bradley, etc. Even Alexeander's name comes up as if this is this huge potential superstar who could take the breaks off of Paq's momentum.

[Chopper417]

He's added nothing to his resume since 2009. LOL @ Margarito and Clottey being worth anything. Get off your knees.

Completely agree, what a complete joke. Take away the Margs win against Cotto, when was the last time either Margarito or Clottey won a meaningful boxing match? Clottey beating Judah in 2008? Margarito beating Cintron in 2008?

[IMDAZED]

Completely agree, what a complete joke. Take away the Margs win against Cotto, when was the last time either Margarito or Clottey won a meaningful boxing match? Clottey beating Judah in 2008? Margarito beating Cintron in 2008?

Margarito hadn't won a fight in two years, hadn't looked good in two years and got his a** kicked by Mosley. A catchweight too? Man, that fight was utter basura.

And Clottey? WTF? Utter crap.

[Artician]

naw b-hops beats pacs.

Sig worthy

[tatangb45]

First of all I’m not a fan of Floyd this thread is not about Floyd and none of my posts have mentioned Pac vs Floyd. I have criticized him greatly in the past however I do believe he is the superior boxer and would beat Pac and beat him convincingly.

I don’t care what these forums suggested if you look at the odds at the bookmakers (the guys who really matter)for both the Hatton and Cotto fights Pac was a big favourite in both.

The best win in the higher weight classes is Cotto because he was the one closest to his prime but looking back in hindsight the win is tainted by the catch weight and i think its fair to say Cotto was and will never be the same after his brutal loss against Margarito.

I am not arguing about the odds before those fights, although I wouldn't say that Pac was a BIG favorite. What I'm trying to point out is when this perception of Pac becoming the favorite in those fights came about. The change happened only after the DLH fight. Prior to that, but after the Floyd/Hatton fight, people were still giving Pac no chance against these two fighters. I discovered this when somebody from another site bumped a thread that was posted right after the Floyd/Hatton fight. All the comments, except for ones from Pacdbest, gave no chance to Pac. The DLH fight was the turning point on how people perceived Pac as a WW threat.

What I am suggesting is that all the garbage thrown at Pac came mostly from one fighter and his group of jealous fans after it became obvious that Pac has become a major threat to Floyd's 0. If you remove them and their distorted opinions from the equation, you will get a clearer and more objective view of Pac's accomplishments.

[ModernTalking]

I agree, still fighting bums and leftovers.

Them bums retired Mayweather though LOL.

[Chopper417]

I am not arguing about the odds before those fights, although I wouldn't say that Pac was a BIG favorite. What I'm trying to point out is when this perception of Pac becoming the favorite in those fights came about. The change happened only after the DLH fight. Prior to that, but after the Floyd/Hatton fight, people were still giving Pac no chance against these two fighters. I discovered this when somebody from another site bumped a thread that was posted right after the Floyd/Hatton fight. All the comments, except for ones from Pacdbest, gave no chance to Pac. The DLH fight was the turning point on how people perceived Pac as a WW threat.

What I am suggesting is that all the garbage thrown at Pac came mostly from one fighter and his group of jealous fans after it became obvious that Pac has become a major threat to Floyd's 0. If you remove them and their distorted opinions from the equation, you will get a clearer and more objective view of Pac's accomplishments.

Remove Floyd from the equation and Pac's career defining moments were still all below 135, doesn't change literally one thing bro.

[cixthree]

whether you think that is true or not, pac still has the best resume of this era by a good margin.

Explain in detail why you think this...
Other than the guys being "Bigger" than him, none of the guys he faced had anything left.

Clottey: He basically admitted in pre-fight interviews & post fight interviews that he was "Supposed to lose", plus he just lost the fight before (Bob fixed that fight) plus Clottey was not allowed to re-hydrate to much.

Marg: It was all down hill after Shane Oldsley spanked him and tomatoe can Garcia took him all 12 rounds.
Plus forcing him to come in at 150? Dead man walking.

Shane: 40! lost his last 2 fights? Nothing more to say here.

JMM: I love JMM but really? he's almost 40 now, plus Floyd has already proved he can't hold the weight above 135.

Other than Bob putting on an act as if these fights are good/legit, they mean nothing.
Adding the fact that all these guys are under the same boss (You HAVE to be Top Rank to fight Manny, I wonder why), none of these fights mean anything.
But explain how his res is the best of our era in detail PLEASE!

[AFighter4U]

Remove Floyd from the equation and Pac's career defining moments were still all below 135, doesn't change literally one thing bro.

well, since he's been named boxer of the decade and awarded numerous other accolades, its safe to say a number of boxing experts and scribes do not share your opinion.