Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Pacquiao/Steroids: Rumor Creates Ruckus

[Steven Adams]

surely this thread wasnt 11+ pages of 'ped and stuff'.. did anyone read that pedo boxer with a 5-5 record

[tomhawq]

the second negotiation, which ross greenburg confirmed, happened precisely to correct the mistakes of the first. the hbo executive said that he didn't know why floyd turned down the pacquiao fight. floyd admitted himself in his ustream rant, "we will kick poochios ass, he's going to take the urine and blood tests... he's gonna take the urine and blood tests."

the fight still didn't happen. people are sick of it. one boxer is very accessible to the press and the other one is hiding. where do you think people's fingers will point at why the fight is not happening?

go figure.

[AFighter4U]

Shane never tested positive either.

Pac's trainer and nutritionist have both been involved with juicers.

that's cuz the tests he took were announced. even conte himself said they would need AT LEAST 24 hours to hide the roids from the system.

if the tests were indeed unannounced, they'd have to ask the testers to come back the next day before allowing themselves to be tested.

in short, the tests mosley took WERE NOT RANDOM AND UNANNOUNCED.

[Rapid Counter]

Ok, I can understand pac being angry at the Mayweathers for starting up the whole ped debate and not wanting to take tests to prove that he can't be pushed around by them. I get that. But why did he not take the tests when he asked Shane Mosley to take them? Mosley agreed to do the tests as long as manny took the same tests right? So why did pac then do a complete 180 on that?

I mean, Mosley has never failed a drug test so why ask him? Lol

[BoZz]

Pac has never said yes i agree with the full proper test with no cut off days..the bit** should marry arum..without him he would be nothing he gave him rubbish fighters to fight.

[BoZz]

look how pac use to look after fights now all of a sudden he doesn't look half as damaged after fights ...there are questions..I know he fought bumms who came from a loss and it was at catch weight but that also shows us how evident it is that arum payed fighters to lose.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Ok, I can understand pac being angry at the Mayweathers for starting up the whole ped debate and not wanting to take tests to prove that he can't be pushed around by them. I get that. But why did he not take the tests when he asked Shane Mosley to take them? Mosley agreed to do the tests as long as manny took the same tests right? So why did pac then do a complete 180 on that?

I mean, Mosley has never failed a drug test so why ask him? Lol

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[cherpotpot]

Pacquiao is catching heat about PED's because of the way he acted when Floyd first demanded the test. First he said they would make him to weak, than that he was superstitious and then that he was afraid of needles. Then it was the cutoff dates. That made him look su****ious to people who were looking for a reason to think Pacquiao is doping up.

it was true enough that during Pac-Morales 1 fight, he claimed he was so weak after such time that they took his blood again ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT itself (NSAC would claim they had to do another test because the first test results was lost, and during this time Pacquiao is not yet a Top Rank fighter while Erik Morales was). It was also during this time that he was weightdrained and would not be allowed to even drink water, so maybe what Pacquiao felt was actually caused by this, and only aggravated by them getting another blood test on him. Correct, he was indeed superstitious. BUT, i emphasize, HE NEVER SAID HE WAS AFRAID OF NEEDLES. That statement was made by Bob Arum, because during the time when that issue was raised, Pacquiao was in the Philippines. The statement itself did not come from Pacquiao, maybe Bob Arum could not find the rationale when Pacquiao's responded that he didn't want the blood test because it makes him weak. So, Bob Arum made an excuse like that because he thought getting weakened by a blood test is ridiculous. But even in the Philippines, Pacquiao NEVER EVER cited that he was afraid of needles, proof is his tattoes on his body. These rumors coming up are so malicious and made-up to make Pacquiao look so bad, maybe because of jealousy. I hope people make a deep research before they accuse people. Pacquiao has never cheated IN and OUT OF THE RING. PERIOD. Pacquiao is a warrior and would never let himself lose for the FIlipino people who count on him. He injures all these pain to hand us the victory. Take a look at his hands, he has this big cyst on his hands because even if gets his hand injured he doesn't mind, he will keep punching.

[GRUSTLER]

Talking to Manny Pacquiao fans is totally useless. I'll explain. They have all this beef and animosity towards Floyd for this fight not happening but Cosign Manny not taking the tests during the first and definitely most official negotiation? Basically saying it was ok for Manny to take time to think about it but Floyd is the one that catches all the heat? Bottomline is that there is no excuse for Manny to have not agreed to the tests and at the same time when negotiating with Floyd negotiate a fight with Joshua Clottey? How can anyone (Not only Pac fans) justify this? Why did Manny need to think about agreeing to random blood testing? Either he ducked the tests, Floyd or both. What other explaination is it?

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"It's not so much that I give a damn whether this fight happens-- I don't -- and for me it's not the greatest experience doing a promotion with Floyd Mayweather," Arum said. "But not to do this fight would slow down the momentum of boxing."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4672323

What other proof do Manny fans need? Sometimes you guys make cave men seem like scholars. I present proof and all you guys do is present personal opinions and speculations. Pac didn't want to fight when it counted plain and simple. How can you blame Floyd for Pac not making the fight happen over a year ago?

[fitefan]

That Rafael Palmerio quote was the first thing I thought of when I seen the quote from Pacquiao press release. LOL

I don't think Pacquiao is on steroids or any kind of banned substances. The only problem with Pacquiao is that he is just a puppet who does whatever Bob Arum says.

solid post, dude

i've always felt that arum will not let floyd in the ring with pac until he milks him dry and he's about to retire

all the cretins saying floyd's waiting for manny to get older needs to take a second a really think....floyd only wanted better testing than the standard. he didn't haggle over anything.....ANYTHING