Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Pacquiao/Steroids: Rumor Creates Ruckus

[GRUSTLER]

solid post, dude

i've always felt that arum will not let floyd in the ring with pac until he milks him dry and he's about to retire

all the cretins saying floyd's waiting for manny to get older needs to take a second a really think....floyd only wanted better testing than the standard. he didn't haggle over anything.....ANYTHING

Basically Pac fans are saying that it was not ok for Floyd to ask for the blood tests to make the fight (eventhough both would undergo it) but it was ok for Manny to refuse them? Sounds suspect to me.

[cherpotpot]

It's clear to any rational observer that this is the case. If Manny had said sure, no problem let's do OST i think it's a good idea, or Floyd you are a *****, but i'll do it and kick your ass then these accusations wouldn't still be here almost 2 years later. They would have virtually vanished win, lose or draw.

The alternative, though not as good as the above could have gone something like this.

"No i will not take OST, that is ridiculous, it is not required by the boxing commission or the rules. I am tested according to the rules of the commission, if they decide to implement stricter testing that is fine, but until then we will comply with what everyone else does. P.S. Floyd is scared of me. I'm so good he thinks i'm cheating.....what a *****"

--> It takes ONE position and offers ONE single reason why he won't do it.

Instead his whole team and him included came out with so many different excuses and changed their position so many times, contradicted themselves etc etc that they placed this su****ion on themselves. They are the ones who allowed this idea to GROW. Mayweather simply planted a seed........Team MP let the seed of doubt grow with their actions.

that is your take because you were'nt in Manny's position. I see MP team and Bob Arum found Pacquiao's claim that he is weakened by blood testing especially on the night of the fight (which he experienced in the Morales 1 fight, which i already explained in my other post), ridiculous and incredible. But what can they do if the "boss" has his strong opinion about it. So, what do they do but split on opinions. Now, what happened? Their words became Manny's word, which was not the case.

[amayseng]

use you common sense people, the best fighter in the world, a man with

100 million dollars is gonna rely on a guy whos biggest accomplishment in

life is being a human punching bag, a sparring partner???


in the day in age of elite technology and pharmaceuticals pacman is gonna

rely on a phillipino sparing partner????? hahaha

[amayseng]

that is your take because you were'nt in Manny's position. I see MP team and Bob Arum found Pacquiao's claim that he is weakened by blood testing especially on the night of the fight (which he experienced in the Morales 1 fight, which i already explained in my other post), ridiculous and incredible. But what can they do if the "boss" has his strong opinion about it. So, what do they do but split on opinions. Now, what happened? Their words became Manny's word, which was not the case.

i played baseball and i was superstitious to the fact that at one point i didnt

change my socks for 4 games because i felt it weakened my swing the week

before when i changed them


so i can buy his superstition when others cant

[cherpotpot]

Hilarious how Team Pac claims Manny doesn't like being sprayed with water..yet Manny and his team have no problems watering the seed of su****ion over them...

watch your words because you are not God. it's so easy for you to accuse and judge, you let us see what's the inside of your heart.

[amayseng]

Basically Pac fans are saying that it was not ok for Floyd to ask for the blood tests to make the fight (eventhough both would undergo it) but it was ok for Manny to refuse them? Sounds suspect to me.

honestly floyd doesnt even fight anymore why speak of him?

he is done, its over.

he doesnt want to fight anymore, he has money, he is not coming back.

[cherpotpot]

Ok, I can understand pac being angry at the Mayweathers for starting up the whole ped debate and not wanting to take tests to prove that he can't be pushed around by them. I get that. But why did he not take the tests when he asked Shane Mosley to take them? Mosley agreed to do the tests as long as manny took the same tests right? So why did pac then do a complete 180 on that?

I mean, Mosley has never failed a drug test so why ask him? Lol

It was freddie roach who asked that in the interview. It was not Pacquiao. Because Manny never asked his opponent to take a blood test which isn't required by NSAC. Pacman has not demanded that. May be on money he would make demands but on issues like that, it is not his concern.

[tomhawq]

Basically Pac fans are saying that it was not ok for Floyd to ask for the blood tests to make the fight (eventhough both would undergo it) but it was ok for Manny to refuse them? Sounds suspect to me.

which is why the second negotiation happened -- to correct their (arum/pac's) mistakes in the first. floyd still walked away from it. no way you could spin that blame could still be laid on arum/pac. ross greenburg confirmed that the 2nd negotiaion happened. yes. an hbo executive, not just some bum from nowhere.

give it up, dude. floyd is to blame, which is why he can't come out of hiding.

[cherpotpot]

Manny Pacquiao whole argument about him giving blood mentally/physically weakens him is a lame excuse. Funny how he used the first Morales loss as his argument to not commit to the testing but he also had so many other excuses on why he lost that fight and the giving blood weakens him excuse was not the one on top of the list.

of course, it would be absurd to give that "the blood test weakened him that's why he lost" on the post-fight interview, the audience might laugh at him. he gave that reason on a personal interview on philippine tv (over an ABS-CBN show) when he was welcomed in the philippines. i'm sorry i don't have the link but you can find it on you-tube.

[Rapid Counter]

It was freddie roach who asked that in the interview. It was not Pacquiao. Because Manny never asked his opponent to take a blood test which isn't required by NSAC. Pacman has not demanded that. May be on money he would make demands but on issues like that, it is not his concern.

Ok then, so why did Roach do a complete 180 then?