Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Pacquiao/Steroids: Rumor Creates Ruckus

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if you took a little time to do some research, you'd find out that DRUG TESTS WERE NO LONGER AN ISSUE.

Ross Greenberg of HBO confirmed this.

Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy himself confirmed this.

and there are SEVERAL videos of Pac ACCEPTING TO TAKE THE TESTS.

yet some people here for some reason put their heads in the sand and ignore these facts.

Mmmmm, actually maybe you should have done your research and actually read what I wrote. Did I even mention Mayweather? I mentioned Shane Mosley and Tommy Morrison. I don't care if Mayweather and Pacquiao never fight. I just pointed out that how can anyone not be the slightest bit su****ious of pac. There was one fool on here willing to bet his life that pac is clean. Really? I'm pretty sure the guy has never met pac so betting his life is just ridiculous.

Tommy Morrison testified to passing drugs tests. He also testified to the benefits of ped use. So if he slipped through the cracks who is to say Manny Pacquiao isn't doing the same thing or Floyd Maywather or Bernard Hopkins or Sergio Martinez or Juan Manuel Marquez. As far as I know the only god is the only one people should have blind faith in. In God we trust, everyone else, take the tests.

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It takes a nation of Pac Stans to just believe and fully support their Congroidsman's 40 million dollar "superstition". Blood drawing must not exist in the Philippines..Pacthetic..

funny coming from a country which has roided boxers, wrestlers, football players, baseball players, etc...dude dont think that most of the world class athletes are like roided americans...most of them has class....which is something that i think you should have also...

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Mmmmm, actually maybe you should have done your research and actually read what I wrote. Did I even mention Mayweather? I mentioned Shane Mosley and Tommy Morrison. I don't care if Mayweather and Pacquiao never fight. I just pointed out that how can anyone not be the slightest bit su****ious of pac. There was one fool on here willing to bet his life that pac is clean. Really? I'm pretty sure the guy has never met pac so betting his life is just ridiculous.

Tommy Morrison testified to passing drugs tests. He also testified to the benefits of ped use. So if he slipped through the cracks who is to say Manny Pacquiao isn't doing the same thing or Floyd Maywather or Bernard Hopkins or Sergio Martinez or Juan Manuel Marquez. As far as I know the only god is the only one people should have blind faith in. In God we trust, everyone else, take the tests.

without even saying Mayweather, you brought the drug testing argument, so that makes you more like a real jealous hater..

[cherpotpot]

Sounds to me like Manny is the boss when it suits him.

manny is always the boss. but of course, there are other times when people have to convince him to suit their own so, manny can be swayed so long as you can convince him. when it come to financial terms/issues, bob arum is very able in convincing pacquiao because he is so good at business negotiations. it was the very big reason why pacquiao fought margarito, instead of cotto. cotto and pacquiao has already agreed on re-match, but arum changed pacquiao's mind.

[Squizz]

Ten years from Now Mayweather will murder someone, just like his Idol O.J Simpson.

What an insightful post. I'm really surprised someone of your intelligence can even operate a computer. My hat is off to you. Now here's a cookie.

******.

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The writer says:

‘’ we are too easily swayed by falsities and too easily sceptical of the truth’’

That really does not make sense at all if you think about it, if you are sceptical of what appears to be the truth you will most certainly not be ‘’easily’’ swayed by falsities.

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i agree with all the tests for an even playing field, although i personally think that the frequency may put a little risk on the fighter when a fighter trains. blood clots travel when you move, especially when you do strenuous activities, and it could go to the lungs, to the heart or the brain. i think it would be better that after the test, the fighter take a rest (no training) for a day or two, coz i don't think the blood clots dissolve easily. but then, it's just me. i can't impose my will on anyone if a fighter doesn't wanna agree for his own personal reasons, i don't take it against them. but i personally think that pacquiao and freddy roach are not cheaters. i cannot speak so much of roach than i can speak for pacquiao because we know pacquiao. as a boxer, he's never been a cheater in and out of the ring and i don't think he would go as far as cheating to win, aside from the fact that steroids are not known to us in the philippines. with the fighters who cheated that roach trains, i don't think roach would impose on his fighters to cheat. i don't think, that's the way he is. they might have done it all by themselves and i don't think they would tell roach, or even anyone, that they are doing it (doping). as for justine fortune i don't know him. as for alex ariza, i am not so sure about him, honestly.

Hey, I appreciate the reply without any insults. I wish everyone was the same. With regards to your opinion of Pacquiao, you are entitled to your own opinion. As for the blood clot theory, well I don't know if any athlete has died from a blood clot due to blood testing. I've never heard of that happening. You could be right. Personally if a fighter refuses the tests then anyone should have the right to be su****ious.

[JudgeDredd2011]

News to Floyd Fans: Pacman doesn't care what you guys think. You can keep on accusing him of taking PEDS. He will just keep on fighting other fighters.

Pacman is now among the highest paid athletes in the world. His endorsements are rolling in with the new agent hired for him by Bom Arum. Pacman does not need Floyd.

[bluetuazon]

First, this was an excellent post by David Greisman. Major Props!

I posted these facts over a year ago on multiple boxing forums when this PED rumor was first ignited by Mayweather Sr. To my surprise, the orginal posts were reomoved by the Site Admins. I can only assume that truth is sometimes harder to swallow than innuendo, unsubstantiated insinuations, or rumors. Hopefully this post will stay up.


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The Mayweather Family Saga
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FACT: 1979 - Tony Sinclair (Mayweather Jr's Uncle) shoots Floyd Mayweather Sr. in the lower left leg with a 20-gauge ******* late on Jan. 21, 1979, after an ongoing argument.

"I'd told Tony Sinclair, [brother of Deborah, Mayweather's mother] to move on from living with us. He came through the bedroom door with a *******. I said, "You gonna kill me? Well, do what you've got to do. But you're going to kill me and my baby." With Floyd in my arms I had a better chance. He shot my left leg. Blew off a piece of it. I continued fighting and became the number-one contender."


FACT: 1993 - Mayweather Sr. and several others were convicted in 1993 of smuggling ******* in detergent boxes from 1987-92. Floyd senior received a five-year sentence for trafficking ******* from Chicago to Grand Rapids. Served 3 years.


FACT: 2002 - Mayweather Jr. pleads guilty too two charges of domestic violence against Melissa, the mother of his eldest son.

FACT: 2004 - Roger Mayweather serves six months for the battery of his two children's grandmother. He knocks out the two bottome teeth of the grandmother.

FACT: 2004 - Mayweather Jr. was convicted on two counts of battery for punching two women at a Las Vegas nightclub the previous year (2003). He received a suspended one-year jail sentence and was ordered to undergo "impulse-control" counseling.

FACT: 2004 - Mayweather Jr. receives community service for kicking a bouncer in a Grand Rapids bar.

FACT: 2005 - Mayweather Jr. is acquitted of hitting the mother of his three children, Josie Harris at a Las Vegas nightclub on Dec. 27 2003. A jury acquitted him of the domestic violence charge, a felony, after the mother of his children recanted her story in court.

Rumor: Josie Harris was paid an undiclosed monthly retainer by Floyd Jr. to recant her story.

FACT: 2006 - Roger Mayweather starts a riot when he attacked Zab Judah during a bout with Floyd Jr. He was fined $200,000 and suspended for year. He was also jailed for six months for domestic assault that year in an unrelated incident.

Fact: 2007 - Mayweather Sr. found out that he is the father of another boxer, Justin Jones. The DNA test proved positive. Mayweather Sr. and Justin Jones plan to start training together soon.

FACT: 2009 - In August 2009, Roger Mayweather was arrested in Las Vegas for attacking one of his former female boxers. Mayweather allegedly hit her several times in the ribs, then tried to choke her, causing her to spit up blood when police arrived.

Note: A Las Vegas judge had issued an arrest warrant for Roger Mayweather after the boxing trainer failed to show up for a court appearance on battery and coercion charges.

FACT: 2009 - Las Vegas police investigating a shooting outside a skating rink seized two handguns, ammunition and two bulletproof vests from the home of boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. and two cars.

FACT: 2009 - The IRS sends the Nevada Athletic Commission a levy notice on Sept. 4 2009 ordering Mayweather's unpaid taxes be deducted from his $10 million fight purse. Floyd Mayweather Jr. agrees to pay $5.6 million in back taxes before the Internal Revenue Service was poised to take the money from his purse after his comeback fight against Juan Manuel Marquez. The levy was not executed.

FACT: 2009 - Mayweather Jr. comes in two pounds over the contracted-upon 144 pounds for his welterweight bout with Juan Manuel Marquez and pays a penalty fee of $300,000 for each extra pound.

Note: Law suits from JP Morgan Chase, Vegas ***elers, and numerous homeowners liens were left out of the list.

FACT: 2010 - In September 2010, Mayweather Jr is facing four felony charges, including robbery, larceny and coercion and four misdemeanor charges stemming from a domestic incident involving Josie Harris, the mother of three of his children. The coercion counts stem from Mayweather allegedly threatening to "beat" two of his children if they called 911 or left the house, according to the complaint.
During the Sept. 9 argument with Harris, Mayweather allegedly grabbed her hair and threw her to the floor, the complaint stated.

Fact: 2010 - Nov; Trial has been postponed to Sept. 1 for Floyd Mayweather Jr. on a misdemeanor battery charge stemming from allegations he poked a homeowner security guard in the face during an argument outside Mayweather's Las Vegas home. The misdemeanor case stems from allegations Mayweather poked the 21-year-old association guard during an argument in November about parking tickets in the gated community where Mayweather lives.

Fact: 2011 - Mayweather Jr's Home Owners Association files a civil complaint against him. According to the report, the community alleges that Mayweather has continuously engaged in hostile, harassing, and threatening behavior against certain employees, and has refused to provide his identification to gate officers.

Fact: 2011 - IRS files a $3.4 million lien against Mayweather Jr. for unpaid taxes stemming from 2009.

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Final Thoughts

Excluding the rumor mill stuff, which I don't find improberable at all, it's freakin amazing that anybody would lend any credibility to anything that comes out of the Mayweather's mouths. Past history shows a clear pattern of drug trafficking, domestic violence, and a total disregard for the RULES and law - I'm not just talking about boxing rules here, but rules in life!

For idots like the Mayweathers to even question Pacquiao's integrity, is much like a drug-dealer questioning the ethics of a thief. It's f***ing hypocritcal!

And all you Mayweather fan's questioning Manny's ability to exceed all expectations and attributing it to PED usage; it's just another excuse. You need to find something to take down that little asian that you so desperately hate and want to see loose. So instead of Manny being taken down in the ring, you resort to personal integrity attacks ignited by a convicted felon. You lazy ass loosers need to A) get a job B) learn the meaning of hard work and doing something with purpose and conviction C) Produce some sort of pattern on Manny. Anything! But please, don't spew out the same verbal diahhrea that you 'think' he's using something because Manny has been able to do what he has moving up. That's just speculation. There's nothing wrong with speculation but you need to back it up with something!

Here's my speculation rooted in the evidence and pattterns:

1. Floyd Jr. is more adept and willing to beat on the mother of his childeren. He's definitely not afraid to take on any challengers, as long as they are women!!

2. Uncle Roger has no respect for anybody. How the hell does anybody beat the **** out of a grandmother? He must be taking some serious "A-side meth".

3. Floyd Sr. is still dealing drugs. Alright, that's not fair... I take that back. But there's something fishy about Floyd Sr.... Really brah... I think he's on something. Ain't nuttin right about the guy... I mean, how the hell can anybody be that ****** without being gooped up on gop? I'm tellin ya man... he's on something.

4. And the most de****able testament to Floyd Sr's character is in his own words, "With Floyd in my arms I had a better chance. He shot my left leg. Blew off a piece of it. I continued fighting and became the number-one contender."

What the f**k? How any father would jeopardize the life of his own child to protect his own is disturbing and down right insane!

These baseless claims on Pacquaio's character are no longer isolated to the ring. It's become a personal witch hunt. And if you want to have a character debate between Pacquiao and Mayweather - Pac will win hands down. Mayweather Jr. has risen out of poverty through hard work. I can respect the guy for that. But so has Manny. The difference is Mayweather Jr. is doomed to repeat all the mistakes from his past. His actions don't prove otherwise!

-RM

Ps - I don't truly believe that all Floyd fan's are out of a job or need to learn the value of hard work. Just some of them.

^^^^^^^^^^this......

[bluetuazon]

if you ever needed proof that *******s are obsessed with the mayweathers

this **** right here is ****ing pathetic

u hurt with the truth??? those are facts right there..u cant deny it...