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  • ruedboy
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    #31
    Pro boxing is entertainment and Wilder can ****, one punch ko artist are rare.
    And his excuses are funny as hell.

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    • MoneyKing
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      #32
      My peoples need me HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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      • Zelda
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        #33
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        Muhammad Ali achieved a total of 19 successful Championship defenses.

        Wilder has not equaled Muhammad Ali's Championship defense record.

        But? As a Champion within this era, I do rate Wilder's reign as quite good 'Wilder's two wins vs Ortiz are underrated. And Wilder did fight gallantly in defense of his WBC Heavyweight title' etc.


        I should have clarified "consecutive title defenses" or title defenses in a single reign. Ali had multiple reigns but his longest reign was 10 consecutive title defenses. Only 4 fighters can claim to have done better in the entire history of HW boxing. Here's the list:

        1. Joe Louis – 25*
        2. Larry Holmes – 19
        3. Wladimir Klitschko – 18
        4. Tommy Burns – 11
        5T. Muhammad Ali – 10
        Deontay Wilder – 10
        7T. Joe Frazier – 9
        Lennox Lewis – 9
        Vitali Klitschko – 9
        10. Jack Johnson – 8​

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #34
          Originally posted by Zelda

          I should have clarified "consecutive title defenses" or title defenses in a single reign. Ali had multiple reigns but his longest reign was 10 consecutive title defenses. Only 4 fighters can claim to have done better in the entire history of HW boxing. Here's the list:

          1. Joe Louis – 25*
          2. Larry Holmes – 19
          3. Wladimir Klitschko – 18
          4. Tommy Burns – 11
          5T. Muhammad Ali – 10
          Deontay Wilder – 10
          7T. Joe Frazier – 9
          Lennox Lewis – 9
          Vitali Klitschko – 9
          10. Jack Johnson – 8​
          Mike Tyson achieved 9 successful consecutive title defenses during his first reign '6 of those defenses were of the Undisputed Heavyweight title's'.

          So really Wilder's reign is not greater than Mike Tyson's first reign.

          But in today's era of Heavyweights, Wilder for me was a good Champion etc.
          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-30-2023, 11:22 AM.

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #35
            Even Kownacki was able to beat guys like Arreola, Szpilka etc. What are we talking about?

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              #36
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              ...the fact that Fury beat him like a dog, twice.

              Wow, what a accomplishment. Fury stopped me...so I am a side against Ruiz, lol.
              No! It's because he's a former five year WBC heavyweight champion with over ten title defenses. While Andy Ruiz is only a six-month unified heavyweight champion with no title defenses.

              That's his claim to fame man. In addition, he fought the same man three times in one of the best trilogies in all of heavyweight boxing history. Now what is Tyson Fury's claim to fame is again?​

              Was it knocking out a basketball player; Who knocked out only janitors, uber drivers and construction workers? If so, then Deontay Wilder and his resume' wasn't shit and neither is Tyson Fury and his resume ain't shit.

              Since he only stopped a man who hasn't beat anybody twice. ​

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              • anonymous2.0
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                #37
                Originally posted by denium

                How do you define a "Top 10" fighter?
                Sometimes going by official rankings is iffy because we know that sometimes the boxing orgs fluff their rankings to make an opponent seem higher ranked then he ought to be.

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                • kafkod
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                  ...the fact that Fury beat him like a dog, twice.

                  Wow, what a accomplishment. Fury stopped me...so I am a side against Ruiz, lol.
                  He is also famous for being the worst loser in boxing history and for turning down 2 offers to fight for the undisputed heavyweight crown ...

                  1. Vs Wlad Klitschko, because he was still a baby.

                  2. Vs Anthony Joshua because - take your pick from the following excuses:

                  DAZN would not tell him how much they would be paying AJ.

                  DAZN wanted to control his career.

                  AJ lost to Andy Ruiz 6 months afterward, so the fight wouldn't have happened, even if Deontay had accepted the offer.

                  Deontay was loyal to Showtime.

                  John Skipper, who made the offer on behalf of DAZN, was not in a relationship with Shelly Finkel.

                  Eddie Hearn is a snake.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by champion4ever

                    No! It's because he's a former five year WBC heavyweight champion with over ten title defenses. While Andy Ruiz is only a six-month unified heavyweight champion with no title defenses.

                    That's his claim to fame man. In addition, he fought the same man three times in one of the best trilogies in all of heavyweight boxing history. Now what is Tyson Fury's claim to fame is again?​

                    Was it knocking out a basketball player; Who knocked out only janitors, uber drivers and construction workers? If so, then Deontay Wilder and his resume' wasn't shit and neither is Tyson Fury and his resume ain't shit.

                    Since he only stopped a man who hasn't beat anybody twice. ​
                    What's crazy is these loonies think Ruiz, of all people has a better resume, based entirely on getting what is likely to have been a lucky punch against AJ, then getting soundly defeated in the rematch, then struggling and getting taken 12 with guys that Wilder already stopped.

                    There's certainly no question about whether Ruiz has a better resume. He doesn't.

                    The amount of asinine talk from Wilder haters is crazy.

                    "Ruiz would beat anyone who Wilder beat easily so Wilder's defenses don't mean anything" except that the two guys he has in common with Wilder, he did demonstrably worse, getting taken to decision and getting knocked down. And he didn't even manage any defenses.

                    NSB posters move the goalposts more than the players move.

                    I don't really rate Wilder that high, but if the era is so crappy, and the guys making it to title shots are such scrubs, the other guys must really suck since they can't get their defenses either.

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                    Last edited by crimsonfalcon07; 06-30-2023, 12:01 PM.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      These people don’t deal with facts. “Wilder only beat bums, bum-squad, yada yada yada”.

                      Joe Louis would be called a can-crusher in this generation.
                      Sure, Joe Louis fought his share of cans.

                      But - and this the vital difference between Louis and Wilder - Joe Louis was the undisputed world champion for nearly 12 years and, as well as the cans, Joe fought and beat every credible contender for his crown throughout his long reign.

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