So, Wilder`s claim to fame is...

[champion4ever]

What's crazy is these loonies think Ruiz, of all people has a better resume, based entirely on getting what is likely to have been a lucky punch against AJ, then getting soundly defeated in the rematch, then struggling and getting taken 12 with guys that Wilder already stopped.

There's certainly no question about whether Ruiz has a better resume. He doesn't.

The amount of asinine talk from Wilder haters is crazy.

"Ruiz would beat anyone who Wilder beat easily so Wilder's defenses don't mean anything" except that the two guys he has in common with Wilder, he did demonstrably worse, getting taken to decision and getting knocked down. And he didn't even manage any defenses.

NSB posters move the goalposts more than the players move.

I don't really rate Wilder that high, but if the era is so crappy, and the guys making it to title shots are such scrubs, the other guys must really suck since they can't get their defenses either.

It's a case of utter and profound hatred for this man called Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder because he is American. The tribalist can't stand the fact that he has achieved so much; In such a short period of time just on his God given ability alone; Which is his punching power and it really turns them into green-eyed monsters full of resentment toward him.

[champion4ever]

What's crazy is these loonies think Ruiz, of all people has a better resume, based entirely on getting what is likely to have been a lucky punch against AJ, then getting soundly defeated in the rematch, then struggling and getting taken 12 with guys that Wilder already stopped.

There's certainly no question about whether Ruiz has a better resume. He doesn't.

The amount of asinine talk from Wilder haters is crazy.

"Ruiz would beat anyone who Wilder beat easily so Wilder's defenses don't mean anything" except that the two guys he has in common with Wilder, he did demonstrably worse, getting taken to decision and getting knocked down. And he didn't even manage any defenses.

NSB posters move the goalposts more than the players move.

I don't really rate Wilder that high, but if the era is so crappy, and the guys making it to title shots are such scrubs, the other guys must really suck since they can't get their defenses either.

I agree. It's a case of utter and profound hatred for this man called Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder because he is American. The tribalist can't stand the fact that he has achieved so much; In such a short period of time just on his God given ability alone; Which is his punching power and it really turns them all into green-eyed monsters full of resentment toward him.

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It's crazy to be comparing Wilder to Ali anyways.

But the fault isn't all Wilder's. I think the Alphabet organizations have a lot to do with it, because they remove top guys for pursuing title shots with other organizations, etc, and with four of them in the mix, the level of competition gets drastically dropped. Wilder was making his mandatory defenses, which means he was by definition fighting the top ranked guys at the time by the organization that sanctions his belt. He's not responsible for the WBC giving those shots to undeserving fighters, nor for the era being weak.

Many of the same criticisms leveled against Wilder would also apply to, say, Tyson Fury. But he doesn't get called overrated yet, although I guarantee that NSB will turn against him in a heartbeat if he loses to Usyk (or Ngannou, Jones, or AJ).

most of his fights were not mandatories and we know there is promoter manipulation in who does and does not become mandatory. for example it should have been dillian whyte but the wbc passed him over and let breazele who was ranked lower fight eric molina who was ranked even lower for a mandatory position. thats how wilder ended up with a pbc opponent as mandatory instead of a legit ranked opponent. stiverne also was his mandatory even though he had 1 fight in 2 and a half years against a nobody. how did that happen...magic

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It's a case of utter and profound hatred for this man called Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder because he is American. The tribalist can't stand the fact that he has achieved so much; In such a short period of time just on his God given ability alone; Which is his punching power and it really turns them into green-eyed monsters full of resentment toward him.

so ali and joe louis werent american? you are actually disgracing their names by comparing them to bum basher wilder who only knocks over tomato cans and old men. his only top 10 ko win is over a 39 year old ranked number 5. yeah i dont think that qualifies as biggest puncher ever. hes got a 33 percent ko ratio against top 10 opponents(which he rarely fights) face it hes just a con artist. if he isnt the definition of hype then i dont know what is.

he's actually achieved very little in a long period of time. get it right

[kafkod]

You could say the same about Vitali. What’s his best win?

As I said, very good champion, weak era.

10 consecutive defences is historically impressive. Very few HW’s got to that number.

I was going to say that very few HW champs had as many title defences against absolute cream puffs as Wilder. Then I realised that no HW champion ever had as many title defences against absolute cream puffs as Wilder had.

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corrie sanders is white though

african

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african

oh yeah there are no white people in africa

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I was going to say that very few HW champs had as many title defences against absolute cream puffs as Wilder. Then I realised that no HW champion ever had as many title defences against absolute cream puffs as Wilder had.

but the thing i admire is that he did it in front of everyone's faces. he did it while headlining cards on major platforms. usually champs that line up bum after bum do so in secrecy, hidden away in their hometowns or home countries, far from the prying eyes of boxing fans and the boxing media, but not wilder. he came equipped with an entire propaganda wing to hype him up and defend his terrible fights. it was a team effort to convince us he was great and the biggest puncher in boxing history etc..., stats be damned! 33 percent ko ratio when facing top 10 opponents? who cares! look at all the tomato cans he knocked over! look at how many title defenses he has! just look at him! he looks like he would be great...cept then he falls over trying to throw a punch and the illusion is instantly shattered ah well

[champion4ever]

so ali and joe louis werent american? you are actually disgracing their names by comparing them to bum basher wilder who only knocks over tomato cans and old men. his only top 10 ko win is over a 39 year old ranked number 5. yeah i dont think that qualifies as biggest puncher ever. hes got a 33 percent ko ration against top 10 opponents(which he rarely fights) face ithes just a con artist. if he isnt the definition of hype then i dont know what is.

So what does that make Tyson Fury then; Since he has only knocked out a bum, con artist and hype job with a resume full of tomato cans on his record twice?

If what you are saying is true; Then Tyson Fury is overhyped also. Am I right? A fighter can't be considered great if his biggest wins were against a con artist who was an overhyped bum who couldn't fight.

Those are your words not mine. Don't worry! I'll make sure that Tyson Fury fans on NSB would get the memo; That he is really not that good because his biggest victory came against an overhyped bum who was a con artist.

I am pretty sure that they would be very happy to hear that.

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So what does that make Tyson Fury then; Since he has only knocked out a bum, con artist and hype job with a resume full of tomato cans on his record twice?

If what you are saying is true; Then Tyson Fury is overhyped also. Am I right? A fighter can't be considered great if his biggest wins were against a con artist who was an overhyped bum who couldn't fight.

Those are your words not mine. Don't worry! I'll make sure that Tyson Fury fans on NSB would get the memo; That he is really not that good because his biggest victory came against an overhyped bum who was a con artist.

I am pretty sure that they would be very happy with that.

its not his biggest victory though. beating klitshko is a much better win than beating wilder. beating whyte is a better win since whyte has a much better resume than wilder.