So, Wilder`s claim to fame is...

[HeadShots]

Wilder is single handedly responsible for the rise of white power

to see a 6’9 black Mandingo warrior smashed to bits multiple times on the world stage by a white man is absolutely splendid


he has a place in history as the big black man who got his head beat in by the more powerful white man



they will make a documentary about Tyson Fury and call it unforgiveable whiteness. Deontays head will be smashed in slo mo from 50 different angles. Bring some lotion boyos

[pollywog]

Wilder is single handedly responsible for the rise of white power

to see a 6’9 black Mandingo warrior smashed to bits multiple times on the world stage by a white man is absolutely splendid


he has a place in history as the big black man who got his head beat in by the more powerful white man



they will make a documentary about Tyson Fury and call it unforgiveable whiteness. Deontays head will be smashed in slo mo from 50 different angles. Bring some lotion boyos

Haha...jeez you're a cunny funt !

[crimsonfalcon07]

because they werent fighting bums. the second wilder fought a top fighter he lost so doesnt that prove it right there?

This is essentially saying "everyone except Fury sucks" which again, proves your lack of objectivity on this topic and your inability to put together any kind of rational argument that's even in shouting distance of facts.

All of those guys have plenty of bums on their records. Ruiz especially. Your bias is laughably obvious here. Since you obviously don't care, and just want to bash Wilder, there's no point responding to you further.

[Szef]

Putting Ruiz on that list just proves you aren't being objective here, because Ruiz's resume is absolutely not better.

I said this earlier today, but the biggest names on Ruiz's resume are Parker (who he lost to), AJ (who he lost to), Luis Ortiz (who took him to a close decision, and it was a close decision even with several knockdowns, and an even older Ortiz than the one who Wilder beat twice by KO), and Chris Arreola, who also went the distance with him, and got stopped in 8 by Wilder. He's struggled with all the guys they have in common where Wilder stopped them.

And if title defenses are easy and meaningless, why is it that no champion since Klitschko has been able to do double digits? In fact, Wilder has about as many defenses as Fury, AJ, Ruiz, and Usyk combined. If the division is so weak, why haven't other guys been able to amass the knockouts and title defenses? All these arguments only actually reflect even more poorly on the guys who couldn't even achieve what Wilder did. Not to mention putting the supposed best guy in the division on the canvas several times.

Your metric says that sustained dominance by stoppage wins over the mandatory contender matters less than things like: vacating your belt rather than making a defense, vacating your belt ahead of getting stripped for doping violations, retiring multiple times for "mental health" reasons, getting forced to fight your mandatory by a court, losing to your mandatory, and partying so much that you lose to the guy you just beat. Those things, per your argument, are so much better than winning by knockout.

There's no question that Ruiz has the better resume.

None.

[Zelda]

...the fact that Fury beat him like a dog, twice.

Wow, what a accomplishment. Fury stopped me...so I am a side against Ruiz, lol.

Wilding has many claims to fame reasons.

1. Being a 5-yr reigning champion,
2. Equalling Muhammad Ali's title defense,
3. Knocking out people with one punch,
4. Knocking mandatories/former champs out in one round
5. Providing exciting boxing matches
6. Showing great heart in his fights
7. Being able to market himself
8. and, having people like yourself make threads about him.

[Wir109]

It starting to get wild on social media

Wilders a chump

Ruiz said he (Wilder) has to answer to his slave master Shelly Finkel

Wilder will never forget his 2 time beating by Tyson Fury.

Pretty antisemitic comment from Ruiz.

[hugh grant]

There's some criticising the hype of zhang as he only beat joyce and arguably flip? But wilder is hyped for beating ortiz?

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yeah and he only beat 1 top 10 fighter in those 10 lol.

How do you define a "Top 10" fighter?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I mean, they're not wrong when they say Wilder has a crap resume.

The issue is, so does literally every other active heavyweight. But he alone among them was able to rack up double digit title defenses.

Very weak eta. You could make a similar argument about either Klitschko tbf.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Wilding has many claims to fame reasons.

1. Being a 5-yr reigning champion,
2. Equalling Muhammad Ali's title defense,
3. Knocking out people with one punch,
4. Knocking mandatories/former champs out in one round
5. Providing exciting boxing matches
6. Showing great heart in his fights
7. Being able to market himself
8. and, having people like yourself make threads about him.

Muhammad Ali achieved a total of 19 successful Championship defenses.

Wilder has not equaled Muhammad Ali's Championship defense record.

But? As a Champion within this era, I do rate Wilder's reign as quite good 'Wilder's two wins vs Ortiz are underrated. And Wilder did fight gallantly in defense of his WBC Heavyweight title' etc.