Warren: Fury will not defend the WBC title next

[Inspired]

1) if you want to listen to a sh** human beatbox, listen to Frank Warren's attempt to speak the truth. Watch his deflated facial expressions when he knows he is lying and can't even make a straight point.

2) He was talking about purse bids and said 'the last time whyte went to purse bids he was paid 300k'. ???? this makes no sense because of how irrelevant it is. I thought the fight that was going to purse bids was Whyte vs Pulev in 2018?


Promoter Epic Sports & Entertainment won the purse bid on Thursday for the heavyweight world title elimination fight between Kubrat Pulev and Dillian Whyte, a surprise given that it doesn't promote either fighter.

Epic Sports & Entertainment, headed by former longtime Don King attorney John Wirt, won with a bid of $1,500,111 to easily beat two other bidders. Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, Whyte's promoter, offered $831,111, while Pulev promoter Team Sauerland bid $801,305.

Pulev is entitled to 75 percent of the winning bid ($1,125,083.25), and Whyte will receive the remaining 25 percent ($375,027.75).

That was with the ibf, not wbc.

Why didn't Umar/ifl stop warren on this and correct him or press him further? ifl is the worst of the youtube boxing channels at this point. why does eddie hearn bother with them, let alone sponsor them?

[Inspired]

Can you casuals explain to me, how is Fury -Joyce not bigger fight than Fury -Whyte? Joyce was never knocked out, by anybody.

what do casuals have to do with this? or did you just throw that out there to come across as intelligent?

Joyce is better than Whyte for sure, but he isn't currently 'bigger' than whyte in business terms. Whyte vs Fury is a grudge match and there's a long history with whyte and the wbc leading to this fight. iJoyce is also injured.

[Toffee]

The £300,000 amount was revealed in interviews by Frank Warren, when explaining why the WBC ruled the way they did. Bob Arum claimed in an interview that the WBC added up the purses of the last three Fury fights and last three Whyte fights and that the split should be 90/10, but the WBC doesn't go any lower than 80/20.

Yes, I do have connections with the sanctioning bodies. I've been friends with Mauricio Sulaiman for years. But the reasoning for the 80/20 split is public knowledge, not any sort of private info.

According to the rules they don't go any lower than 70/30. But this is the WBC.

You must see what they're up to here? They reserve the right to do what they want in exceptional circumstances. Well what is exceptional about this one?

Warren is playing a legitimate enough card. He's asking them to look at their last fights. But we know Dillian is a decent draw and the last fight for each of them isn't representative. He's as much of a draw as some of their other mandatories - Breazeale, Ortiz, Stiverne... it's not like he's a nobody. He regularly fights on PPV and sells well.

It's a screw job. I can't see how anyone can defend it.

[REDEEMER]

Can you casuals explain to me, how is Fury -Joyce not bigger fight than Fury -Whyte? Joyce was never knocked out, by anybody.

How many headline PPV events has Joyce had ?

Theres not even a rivalry between Joyce and Fury they are practically sparring partners often ,that’s going to be a bigger draw then two legit guys who hate each other ?

[kafkod]

The only thing I've said is that anyone saying 20% is OK is just a troll.

Just be sensible and support BOXING. Don't justify the BS.

I didn't justify it, I explained how Fury's team justified it, from a statement by Frank Warren.

Whether it's an OK offer or not will depend on the arbitrators decision. If they decide Whyte is entitled to more, then Fury will have to either offer him more or go to a purse bid.

[kafkod]

what do casuals have to do with this? or did you just throw that out there to come across as intelligent?

Joyce is better than Whyte for sure, but he isn't currently 'bigger' than whyte in business terms. Whyte vs Fury is a grudge match and there's a long history with whyte and the wbc leading to this fight. iJoyce is also injured.

It's casual fans who fill up arenas and take PPV numbers into 7 figures. Dillian Whyte lost credibility with UK casuals by getting KTFO by Povetkin. They still like him, because he's an aggressive, entertaining fighter, but few give him any chance of beating Fury. Joyce, on the other hand, gained a lot of credibility by mullering Dubois, who UK casuals thought was going to be the next HW superstar.

[M312]

I didn't justify it, I explained how Fury's team justified it, from a statement by Frank Warren.

Whether it's an OK offer or not will depend on the arbitrators decision. If they decide Whyte is entitled to more, then Fury will have to either offer him more or go to a purse bid.

Well it certainly sounds as though you were saying it was OK, apologies if not, but nobody really needs you to explain it, we're all aware of the nonsense Frank and co are saying. Our job is to call them idiots/understand they are just playing a game.

[M312]

It's casual fans who fill up arenas and take PPV numbers into 7 figures. Dillian Whyte lost credibility with UK casuals by getting KTFO by Povetkin. They still like him, because he's an aggressive, entertaining fighter, but few give him any chance of beating Fury. Joyce, on the other hand, gained a lot of credibility by mullering Dubois, who UK casuals thought was going to be the next HW superstar.

There is nothing that has happened that has any evidence supporting this.

Literally just made up.

[Inspired]

It's casual fans who fill up arenas and take PPV numbers into 7 figures. Dillian Whyte lost credibility with UK casuals by getting KTFO by Povetkin. They still like him, because he's an aggressive, entertaining fighter, but few give him any chance of beating Fury. Joyce, on the other hand, gained a lot of credibility by mullering Dubois, who UK casuals thought was going to be the next HW superstar.

casuals watch aj, only the hardcores watch whyte and chisora.
I like joyce a lot, but bt sports does poor numbers and casuals know little about him. My brother who is a casual was shocked when i told him joyce might well be top of the heap of british HWs. "Dat guy iz like 36yr old bro he aint gonna do shhh". That is how casuals think.

As for whyte. Look at the pop he received in the povetkin rematch. The guy is loved. Brits dont mind a loser when he is likeable. We like ppl who get stuck in, not the ones who hide away Joyce is likeable when he has shown some personality.

ppl in the US who think whyte is just a whiner and not likeable, they dont follow his ifl interviews. The guy is an everyman. He was door security when he fought aj. With that yardie accent and mentality...ppl lap that up here.

Read the comments on his ifl interviews.
Birdie num num....that was hilarious.

[kafkod]

Well it certainly sounds as though you were saying it was OK, apologies if not, but nobody really needs you to explain it, we're all aware of the nonsense Frank and co are saying. Our job is to call them idiots/understand they are just playing a game.

You needed me to explain it, or you wouldn't have asked me about it. Anyway, no point talking to somebody who ignores whatever you say and just keeps repeating the same stuff over and over. I'm out of this convo.