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    #51
    Originally posted by Oracle01
    Whyte is a pretty big name in the UK and a big fight. Offering him 20% is a blatant duck.
    Fury made $25,000,000 in his last fight. Whyte made $400,000 in his last fight.

    In an 80-20 split, Fury would be making 4x as much as Whyte.

    In their last fights, Fury made 62.5x as much as Whyte.


    If a random champion is entitled to 70%, Fury, one of the biggest draws in the world, is absolutely deserving of 80%.

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      #52
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

      That's a lie. The WBC publicly confirmed that when they ordered the fight, Whyte turned it down.
      That's a lie. Whyte agreed to the fight, then Fury went in a different direction and it never happened.

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        #53
        Originally posted by kafkod

        That's a lie. Whyte agreed to the fight, then Fury went in a different direction and it never happened.
        WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has given an update of what is next for Dillian Whyte. After Whyte was left without a fight for an interim WBC heavyweight title bout when Dominic Breazeale chose to fight WBC world champion Deontay Wilder, Whyte secured a fight against Oscar Rivas. But as it stands, the fight against Rivas …


        "We ordered Whyte vs. Fury, if both men win their corresponding fights, for the mandatory position. That position was not accepted by Whyte so the WBC is now handling Dillian Whyte's appeal and we will resolve it in the coming weeks," Sulaiman said. "He's petitioned to be named the mandatory contender without fighting a final elimination. The WBC's position was to order him and Fury to fight for the interim title and for the mandatory position. So we were trying to do several big fights, and Whyte vs. Fury is a huge fight as well."

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          #54
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          Fury made $25,000,000 in his last fight. Whyte made $400,000 in his last fight.

          In an 80-20 split, Fury would be making 4x as much as Whyte.

          In their last fights, Fury made 62.5x as much as Whyte.


          If a random champion is entitled to 70%, Fury, one of the biggest draws in the world, is absolutely deserving of 80%.
          fk off with semantics, its been explained how comparing Whytes last fight purse is totally unfair, also considering the WBC rules which demands a much higher percentage.

          Thats the technical argument, now I will give you the common sense one. Whyte is the interim champ, a big name in the UK, and would be the biggest available fight for Fury and the biggest purse, so offering 20% is a joke and basically a confession that Fury does not want the fight. Anyone with a brain who knows boxing, knows this.

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            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has given an update of what is next for Dillian Whyte. After Whyte was left without a fight for an interim WBC heavyweight title bout when Dominic Breazeale chose to fight WBC world champion Deontay Wilder, Whyte secured a fight against Oscar Rivas. But as it stands, the fight against Rivas …


            "We ordered Whyte vs. Fury, if both men win their corresponding fights, for the mandatory position. That position was not accepted by Whyte so the WBC is now handling Dillian Whyte's appeal and we will resolve it in the coming weeks," Sulaiman said. "He's petitioned to be named the mandatory contender without fighting a final elimination. The WBC's position was to order him and Fury to fight for the interim title and for the mandatory position. So we were trying to do several big fights, and Whyte vs. Fury is a huge fight as well."
            That's not the diamond belt title fight Sulaiman is talking about there. After that shady bullshit happened, Fury publicly challenged Whyte to fight him for the diamond belt and the WBC agreed to sanction it. Whyte accepted Fury's challenge, but Fury ended up fighting Tom Schwarz instead.

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              #56
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

              Fury made $25,000,000 in his last fight. Whyte made $400,000 in his last fight.

              In an 80-20 split, Fury would be making 4x as much as Whyte.

              In their last fights, Fury made 62.5x as much as Whyte.


              If a random champion is entitled to 70%, Fury, one of the biggest draws in the world, is absolutely deserving of 80%.
              where does it say dillian made 400k? I'm not disagreeing with your post or anything

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                #57
                Originally posted by Toffee

                Fury didn't hold a belt at that point. Though they still then made him Wilder's mandatory (which shouldn't have happened for a whole host of reasons) so you're right that they didn't do anything.

                Interim Champion is mandatory when the mandatory is called. So he's now both the WBC interim champ and mandatory for the WBC championship.

                If Fury fights someone else when he's been ordered to fight Whyte, then he should be stripped even if the WBC belt isn't on the line. It's pretty straight forward.
                Did you read that from the actual rules about the mandatory situation ? I recall it saying an Interim champion is not considered a mandatory ,not sure why it needs to be called if an Interim champion is a champion in recess it’s like they are deliberately trying to take away his 45% stance because that’s what they get ? I guess the WBC can just pick any mando they want they’ve been doing it forever .


                No way they will strip Fury ,they will make a special event and create some other title to sell the fight . Fury is going to skip out take a far easier fight,posters that love Fury will cheer and so forth .

                Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-23-2021, 11:28 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Oracle01
                  fk off with semantics, its been explained how comparing Whytes last fight purse is totally unfair, also considering the WBC rules which demands a much higher percentage.
                  It's not semantics. Fury makes WAYYYYYY more per fight than Whyte does. It's not even close. And no, the WBC rules don't demand a "much higher percentage." WBC rules say Whyte is entitled to 30%, but Fury is allowed to petition for the split to be changed if he can prove he makes WAYYYYYY more than Whyte, which he does. Reducing Whyte's cut to 20% is appropriate under the circumstances.


                  Thats the technical argument, now I will give you the common sense one. Whyte is the interim champ, a big name in the UK, and would be the biggest available fight for Fury and the biggest purse, so offering 20% is a joke and basically a confession that Fury does not want the fight. Anyone with a brain who knows boxing, knows this.
                  The interim title is irrelevant when determining the split. A big name in the UK is irrelevant compared to a huge worldwide name. If a normal no name champion is entitled to 70%, it's completely reasonable for Fury to be entitled to 80% after he just made $50 million in his last two fights combined.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Watcherw1

                    where does it say dillian made 400k? I'm not disagreeing with your post or anything
                    Whyte's purse filed with the WBC for his last fight was 300,000 pounds, which is approximately 400,000 dollars.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      That's not the diamond belt title fight Sulaiman is talking about there. After that shady bullshit happened, Fury publicly challenged Whyte to fight him for the diamond belt and the WBC agreed to sanction it. Whyte accepted Fury's challenge, but Fury ended up fighting Tom Schwarz instead.
                      You are confused about the timeline. Fury vs Schwarz was announced months before the WBC ordered Fury vs Whyte and Whyte vs Rivas was announced weeks before the order. The Fury vs Whyte order was for them to fight after their already announced fights against Schwarz and Rivas.

                      Fury's public response to the order was that he would accept if the diamond title was at stake instead of the interim title, unaware of the fact that the WBC was planning to eliminate the diamond title and replace it with the franchise title. Fury ultimately accepted the fight for the interim title.

                      On the other hand, the WBC publicly confirmed that Whyte refused to fight Fury and filed a petition to be named mandatory without having to fight a final eliminator. Those are the facts. So stop lying and saying Fury turned down the Whyte fight when the WBC says you are wrong and that Whyte is the one that turned down the fight.

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