I watched it all back. I'm putting money on Wilder to beat Fury in the third fight. Here's why.

[champion4ever]

That's exactly what I have been saying and trying to tell em' but they are going to be fool when they bet on Fury just to lose all their money on fight night. Lightning doesn't strike twice. So we won't be witnessing the same fight as we did in the rematch.

Boxing is 90 percent mental and 10 percent physical. The last time they fought Wilder came in very unprepared and unfocused. Now he knows what to expect from Fury this time because Fury has left part of his secret out.

He plans on coming into this fight out of shape and not training. Which only means he is doing as I expected he would and that is to underestimate Wilder based off his last performance and taking him lightly. In addition, I've noticed that he has become very complacent and overconfident since winning the title too.

I don't believe that Fury wants this fight as badly as he did the last time they fought which is why I am picking Wilder to win. It would be a huge mistake for him to come in not focused and out out of shape because he can expect to be KO by Wilder in less than three rounds if he does.

[Mmann2e]

Wilder can win, I've been one to say he's **** but in reality no one knows what he looks like. Going silent for the media isn't good but he wasn't going to win the fight talking. Everyone had him as the underdog so the chip on his shoulder should be big. I only question is this his Liston Patterson II fight or is it Ali-Liston. If it's Patterson Liston two he'll have a greater chance than people can imagine however, if flames out throughout the fight like Liston did against Ali he will be gone. Right now the only thing that's driving him is to right the loss and we will see if that mentally drains him completely or gives him an edge he needs to win. A positive is that he's been in the gym and is trying to stay there.

[champion4ever]

Wilder can win, I've been one to say he's **** but in reality no one knows what he looks like. Going silent for the media isn't good but he wasn't going to win the fight talking. Everyone had him as the underdog so the chip on his shoulder should be big. I only question is this his Liston Patterson II fight or is it Ali-Liston. If it's Patterson Liston two he'll have a greater chance than people can imagine however, if flames out throughout the fight like Liston did against Ali he will be gone. Right now the only thing that's driving him is to right the loss and we will see if that mentally drains him completely or gives him an edge he needs to win. A positive is that he's been in the gym and is trying to stay there.

]I doubt it's the same as Liston/Patterson II or Ali/Liston because Wilder actually had to sue Fury for breach of contract in order to get this trilogy bout; Which tells me one thing. That he is both hungry, determined, focused, seeking redemption and motivated in getting his title back.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I doubt it's the same as Liston/Patterson II or Ali/Liston because Wilder actually had sue Fury for breach of contract in order to get this trilogy bout; Which tells me one thing. That he is both hungry, determined, focused, seeking redemption and motivated in getting his title back.

It's a good point.

Wilder is clearly the hungrier of the two. Fury might be a little upset at the whole Joshua fiasco still. He might go in distracted by that plus his inactivity.

Meanwhile Wilder has done nothing but train since he put the first video out.

The other point is, I keep saying, we saw what happened when Ruiz won the big one and had to rematch. Ruiz is fresh off life or death struggle with Arreola, who is 5 years faded from when Wilder beat him down.

All I'm saying is, I don't see this as clear for Fury. Not this time. Not now that Wilder has experienced both styles. And that's all Fury has.

[Jimmy 23]

1)Fury cant cheat this time
2)Wilder will be no more than 225 lbs, last time he was too heavy
3)Wilder is very focused today, he has nothing to lose
4)Malik Scott is the greatest trainer of all times
Deontay will destroy Fury mark my words

[kushking]

Spoken like someone who didn't bother to read the point under bullets #1 and #2. Which happened AFTER Clinchko. He has the same exact vulnerabilities and eats the same shots from the same angles as he always did. He hasn't improved that because he hasn't needed to - thus why "All In" Wallin damn near stopped him.

You guys dead set against all things Wilder...your thongs are showing. You are completely ignoring the due diligence and facts I shared in the first post. Even though I showed you visual evidence that Fury is the actual vulnerable one this time around.

Let me put it another way.

Tyson Fury is on the decline more than Wilder is - and this third fight will showcase that.

Just like Joshua showed you that Ruiz is on the decline more than he is in their rematch, for the same reason.

Fury looks completely different since trained by Sugar Hill. Watch the 2nd Wilder fight & tell me what Fury did wrong, otherwise the remaining pts don't apply. Fury has become capable of no longer being a defensive minded fighter. Sugar taught him how to impose himself & that the best defense is a good offense,the reason Fury had been looking awful at times was because he never felt confident enough to batter opponents on the front foot.(I'm willing to bet anyone vegas odds on Fury winning btw)

[Combat Talk Radio]

Fury looks completely different since trained by Sugar Hill. Watch the 2nd Wilder fight & tell me what Fury did wrong,

I already did. You didn't read it. #3.

Wilder lost that fight because he started tentative instead of aggressive. He needs to go back to what got him to this point, which is relentless aggression and speed from all sides.

[kushking]

I already did. You didn't read it. #3.

Wilder lost that fight because he started tentative instead of aggressive. He needs to go back to what got him to this point, which is relentless aggression and speed from all sides.

Wilder didn't do anything different from any other fight though,rewatch Wilders fights vs Ortiz.(remember I had told everyone after Ortiz that he looked like he wanted to quit,& that Fury by ko wouldn't surprise me in the least,& I was laughed at/called a troll/fanboi/hater etc.)

If you want to focus on Fury as why Wilder will win,you should focus on Wilder & how horrible he fights/how terrible his skillset is.(it goes both ways)

Wilder only looked worse in rematch Because he actually had to defend from agression for once. Wilder still tried his usual head hunting as always,only difference was Fury wasn't scared & running away trying to win on pts,& it left Wilder a sitting duck

[Combat Talk Radio]

Wilder didn't do anything different from any other fight though

Already addressed, you didn't read the thread.

Go back and watch Wilder / Arreola and tell me he fought like that against Fury.

Go back and watch Wilder / Stiverne II and tell me he fought like that against Fury.

"no because Fury was aggressive"

That's the problem. You beat bullies with force, not an occasional jab and a range straight. Wilder fought tentative when it was the blatant wrong strategy.

Now, read through the posts.

[kushking]

Already addressed, you didn't read the thread.

Go back and watch Wilder / Arreola and tell me he fought like that against Fury.

Go back and watch Wilder / Stiverne II and tell me he fought like that against Fury.

"no because Fury was aggressive"

That's the problem. You beat bullies with force, not an occasional jab and a range straight. Wilder fought tentative when it was the blatant wrong strategy.

Now, read through the posts.

I just gave you 1 specific example you don't mention,Wilder vs Ortiz. Wilder looked like complete dogsht vs Ortiz in both fights, just as he did vs Fury.(If Wilder looked just as awful in those fights it shows its him not his gameplan,it reminds me of ggg blocking with his face when someone attacks him because hes a bully that freezes up when on back foot,its ingrained & systemic)

Wilder literally had 1 gameplan in rematch which was taking Furys head off,he literally phsl when Fury said hed ko him.(so its a bit disingenuous to say Wilder somehow fought tentatively in rematch when his only gameplan was decapitation)