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I watched it all back. I'm putting money on Wilder to beat Fury in the third fight. Here's why.

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  • champion4ever
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    Originally posted by kafkod View Post

    He couldn't have done it without the agreement of Wilder's team. They both signed a contract, remember.
    That much is true. I agree!

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    Ok, fine! Even without the bicep surgery the fight still wouldn't have taken place due to the lockdown. Why do you think that Top Rank and Matchroom were putting their fights in a bubble; It was due to the Covid restrictions? Bob Arum is not in the business of losing money but to make money. He wanted to optimize all revenue streams for that bout because of the amount of the huge guarantees that both Wilder and Fury are receiving for this trilogy bout.
    He couldn't have done it without the agreement of Wilder's team. They both signed a contract, remember.

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  • champion4ever
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    Originally posted by kafkod View Post

    The fight would have happened in July if Wilder hadn't claimed he was injured and asked for a postponement. After that it was pushed back because of the pandemic, not because Fury was scared. Where was Wilder hiding when Fury was posting "Where you at Deontay?" on his social media accounts?
    Ok, fine! Even without the bicep surgery the fight still wouldn't have taken place due to the lockdown. Why do you think that Top Rank and Matchroom were putting their fights in a bubble; It was due to the Covid restrictions? Bob Arum is not in the business of losing money but to make money. He wanted to optimize all revenue streams for that bout because of the amount of the huge guarantees that both Wilder and Fury are receiving for this trilogy bout.

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    You got a deal but when Fury loses don't go run and duck for cover by hiding behind a different handle; Like many of your fellow compatriots from the U.K do. When Anthony Joshua lost; He lost more than half of his fan base on this site. Some left while the others started posting under various alt accounts.

    In any case, Fury is getting slept in this trilogy bout. I promise you that because Fury is mentally unprepared and unfocused for this fight. It's a fight that he did not want but was forced to take.

    He will not bring the same energy and intensity as he did in the rematch weighing over 300 lbs. Which means he isn't training for the fight and is taking Wilder very lightly.

    He is overlooking Wilder and underestimating him which is very dangerous because all it takes is for one punch by Wilder and the fight is over. Also, the reason for the postponements were all Bob Arum's fault.

    He wanted a live gate but due to the lockdown he decided to keep pushing the date backwards. It had absolutely nothing to do with Deontay Wilder. Even Frank Warren confirms this fact. He blamed the pandemic for the fight not happening last year.
    The fight would have happened in July if Wilder hadn't claimed he was injured and asked for a postponement. After that it was pushed back because of the pandemic, not because Fury was scared. Where was Wilder hiding when Fury was posting "Where you at Deontay?" on his social media accounts?

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  • QballLobo
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    Make sure you post the bet slip OP so we know how much your losing that night.

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  • champion4ever
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    Originally posted by kafkod View Post



    You guys are inventing your own reality now. There would have been no need for a court case if Wilder had been ready to fight on the original scheduled date in July 2020, but he claimed to have an injury and asked for it to be postponed till October, then disappeared and wasn't seen or heard from for the next 6 months.

    Fury was ready to fight and posting messages on social media asking Deontay "Where you at?" and telling him that time was running out. It was only after Fury announced that he was moving on and looking to fight someone else that Wilder came out of hiding and started running his mouth, but not to Fury's face, oh no, he doesn't have the balls to talk **** about the Gypsy King to his face, as we saw at the press conference.

    Wilder isn't mentally strong enough to handle the pressure of a big, high profile fight. He's going to get stressed and freeze again, just like he did in the first 2 fights.

    Get your excuses ready, boys.
    You got a deal but when Fury loses don't go run and duck for cover by hiding behind a different handle; Like many of your fellow compatriots from the U.K do. When Anthony Joshua lost; He lost more than half of his fan base on this site. Some left while the others started posting under various alt accounts.

    In any case, Fury is getting slept in this trilogy bout. I promise you that because Fury is mentally unprepared and unfocused for this fight. It's a fight that he did not want but was forced to take.

    He will not bring the same energy and intensity as he did in the rematch weighing over 300 lbs. Which means he isn't training for the fight and is taking Wilder very lightly.

    He is overlooking Wilder and underestimating him which is very dangerous because all it takes is for one punch by Wilder and the fight is over. Also, the reason for the postponements were all Bob Arum's fault.

    He wanted a live gate but due to the lockdown he decided to keep pushing the date backwards. It had absolutely nothing to do with Deontay Wilder. Even Frank Warren confirms this fact. He blamed the pandemic for the fight not happening last year.

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  • FinitoxDinamita
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    It’s good analysis and I tend to agree. I’ve been itching to bet on this fight especially cuz I like Wilder’s chances..

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  • kushking
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    Originally posted by revelated View Post

    Because what you're saying is too binary.

    If what you were saying were true 100% of the time, Joshua would not have inspired this art:



    That outcome had less to do with "skill/gameplan" and more to do with a guy who took the other guy too lightly. But in the rematch, Ruiz was just as violent, just as dominant, every time Joshua got near. So Joshua had to (literally) run away.

    Ruiz is not better than Joshua - as evident by him damn near losing to a faded Arreola. Joshua never learned how to fight guys like Ruiz.

    With Fury, he's never fought someone who was truly aggressive on him. TRULY aggressive and not afraid of him.

    With Wilder, he'd never fought someone who was aggressive on him. TRULY aggressive and not afraid of him.

    But the missing element, dude, is power. RAW. UNTOUCHED. UNTAINTED. Power.



    If you ask people who's stronger - Fury or Wilder - there's only one right answer.

    Fury is not stronger than Wilder. Smarter, not stronger.


    Wilder needs to get back to wild, uncontrolled power swings...not windmill, but don't go tentative and wait for Fury to get off, get off first - and force Fury to make a mistake. Period. It's the only way to beat him. And I suspect that's what you all will see.
    I hear what you're saying but Wilder doesn't like to get hit,its easier said than done to throw caution to the wind. When Wilder starts taking punishment,he has gone into docile mode vs Ortiz twice & vs Fury in rematch.(even in 1st fight he couldn't finish Fury off because Fury got up & returned fire)

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  • kafkod
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    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    My point is that the better fighter isn't always the victorious one. It's the fighter who wants it the most who typically wins.

    Which is why I am putting my money on Wilder to defeat Fury by way of knockout come July 24th. Fury has already suffered another nervous breakdown by attempting to breach his contract with Wilder; Which signifies a sign of mental weakness.

    Wilder has already shown that he is the mentally tougher fighter and is also the more focused, determined, motivated and the hungrier of the two as well. Wilder had to sue Fury just to get him back into the ring again because Fury's mind was wandering and lost concentration.

    He was fancying a fight with Anthony Joshua. if you are not completely one hundred percent focused and prepared against Deontay Wilder then you are flirting with disaster. All it takes is just one punch and he sleeps you.
    Originally posted by revelated View Post

    Plus Fury talking about fighting Takam (!) at one point, when he could easily have fought Wilder instead.
    You guys are inventing your own reality now. There would have been no need for a court case if Wilder had been ready to fight on the original scheduled date in July 2020, but he claimed to have an injury and asked for it to be postponed till October, then disappeared and wasn't seen or heard from for the next 6 months.

    Fury was ready to fight and posting messages on social media asking Deontay "Where you at?" and telling him that time was running out. It was only after Fury announced that he was moving on and looking to fight someone else that Wilder came out of hiding and started running his mouth, but not to Fury's face, oh no, he doesn't have the balls to talk **** about the Gypsy King to his face, as we saw at the press conference.

    Wilder isn't mentally strong enough to handle the pressure of a big, high profile fight. He's going to get stressed and freeze again, just like he did in the first 2 fights.

    Get your excuses ready, boys.

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  • champion4ever
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    Originally posted by revelated View Post

    Plus Fury talking about fighting Takam (!) at one point, when he could easily have fought Wilder instead.
    You are exactly right! He is not mentally focused and prepared for this fight. He'll show up but he won't show up to win. There's no way he will be able to match that same intensity and passion he had for the Wilder rematch.

    Right now judging by his body language he is very laxed, comfortable and bored. I can see an emotional let down in Tyson Fury. He is in very big trouble now because Wilder is coming after him with everything he's got.

    Moreover, if he believe that he can just intimidate Wilder with just his size and physical presence alone then he is wrong. Wilder is not coming into this fight to roll over and lay dead. He is coming to win. He's in it to win it.

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