If Floyd moved up to super-middleweight

[Vladimir303]

if floyd is a jnr welter y didnt he fight hatton at that weight seen as hatton was the best in that division. hatton had to move out of his comfort zone where he was most effective and fight floyd at ww. Hatton was never goin to win at that weight and the diffrence is only 7lbs. He struggled b4 floyd at ww but didnt fight someone of floyds class and fools are posting threads saying floyd would beat jc how old r u rele?

Let me school you real quick.


1. Hatton ducked Floyd at 140 saying he needed more tune-up fights to prepare himself.

2. Floyd started his career at 130lb. Hatton started his career at 140. So using the weight advantage crap isn't gonna work. Hatton is the naturally heavier guy as he walks around at 170lb in between fights. The 7lb difference wasn't the reason he lost. The skill difference is why he got knocked out cartoonishly.

3. Keep up with what goes on in boxing before you make ridiculous comments like that.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Toney does not have better defense then Floyd. Are you serious? Floyd is probably THE best ever defensive fighter. His defense will be studied and used in future generations.

Counter punching is about the same and Floyd is faster.

And naturally bigger has nothing to do with it. The main is, they both transcend weight classes as their "SKILLS" are main reason why they're successfull against much bigger and stronger fighters.

So against Joe, the skill of Floyd would be the main difference.

The Toney that fought Michael Nunn at middleweight had better defense than the Mayweather at welterweight and he certainly would at super middleweight. Peak Toney could stand in front of you and counter your left jab with a straight right hand very fast.

Mayweather was barely even able to hold off Oscar at junior middleweight and Oscar started his career out at super featherweight as well. Calzaghe fought at middleweight while he was in the amateurs and have been a super middleweight for his entire professional career. He would simply be too big for Mayweather. Floyd would be giving up 4 inches in height and over 30 LBS of natural weight.

Natural size doesn't have anything to do with it? Why do i even bother? According to your logic, Roberto Duran could have gone up from lightweight to heavyweight and beat Foreman. They fought in same era and since size doesn't matter, he could have beaten him right? Duran has skills.

[joshyp18]

Let me school you real quick.


1. Hatton ducked Floyd at 140 saying he needed more tune-up fights to prepare himself.

2. Floyd started his career at 130lb. Hatton started his career at 140. So using the weight advantage crap isn't gonna work. Hatton is the naturally heavier guy as he walks around at 170lb in between fights. The 7lb difference wasn't the reason he lost. The skill difference is why he got knocked out cartoonishly.

3. Keep up with what goes on in boxing before you make ridiculous comments like that.

u rele r a fool hatton in shape at his NATURAL boxing weight is smaller than pbf. i am not saying the 7lb reason is y he lost i am just sayin people such as yourself r saying that he started at 130lb so y didnt he fight at 140lb. I dont care what you say the diffrence in one weight was ONE factor as to why hatton struggled that night. Yes he was outclassed but hattons punches at against LWW r much more effective than at WW. Floyd beating joe calzaghe you rele dnt have a clue do you. Its lyk saying pac man would nok out DLH. You are living in fantasy land.

[Vladimir303]

The Toney that fought Michael Nunn at middleweight had better defense than Mayweather at welterweight and certainly at super middleweight. Peak Toney could stand in front of you and counter your left jab with a straight right hand very fast. Mayweather was barely even able to hold off Oscar and Oscar started his career out at super featherweight as well. Calzaghe fought at middleweight while he was in the amateurs and have been a super middleweight for his entire professional career. He would simply be too big for Mayweather. Floyd would be giving up 4 inches in height and over 30 LBS of natural weight.

Floyd has the better defense as he waists less energy defending himself with the shoulder roll. Toney is a little punch drunk right now from taking alot of punches over his career but has a good chin which is why he didn't get knocked out against RJJ and a buncha other opponents.

Natural size doesn't have anything to do with it? Why do i even bother? According to your logic, Roberto Duran could have gone up from lightweight to heavyweight and beat Foreman. They fought in same era and since size doesn't matter, he could have beaten him right? Duran has skills.

Bad Example. Duran doesn't have Sugar Ray Leonard skills which is why he said "no mas" in the rematch. I would have used Sugar Robinson, Roy Jones......not Roberto Duran. Guys who have beaten a bunch of fighters who were bigger and stronger then them because they just had too much natural natalent and skill. The Whitakers, The Jones, The Robinson's, The Leonard's....those kinda guys.

And I wouldn't go as far as the heavyweight division to make my point either.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I apologize but i can't waste my time. Clearly you have biased views on this and if you really think that Mayweather would beat Calzaghe, then you are a fool (which you have shown in this thread).

[Vladimir303]

I apologize but i can't waste my time. Clearly you have biased views on this and if you really think that Mayweather would beat Calzaghe, then you are a fool (which you have shown in this thread).

I gave my opinion and gave solid reasoning why Floyd would win.
In more simple terms, Joe Calzaghe's skills don't impress me enough to make me say that the chance of Floyd beating him is impossible. It's not. Joe fights like a ***** fighting his way out of spider webs and can be beaten by a skilled fighter.


Either way..........Good Riddance.......nice sparring with ya.

[CraigM]

I apologize but i can't waste my time. Clearly you have biased views on this and if you really think that Mayweather would beat Calzaghe, then you are a fool (which you have shown in this thread).

He just wants the attention that he's getting, bless

[Vladimir303]

u rele r a fool hatton in shape at his NATURAL boxing weight is smaller than pbf. i am not saying the 7lb reason is y he lost i am just sayin people such as yourself r saying that he started at 130lb so y didnt he fight at 140lb. I dont care what you say the diffrence in one weight was ONE factor as to why hatton struggled that night. Yes he was outclassed but hattons punches at against LWW r much more effective than at WW. Floyd beating joe calzaghe you rele dnt have a clue do you. Its lyk saying pac man would nok out DLH. You are living in fantasy land.

Learn how to spell lil kid.

I already told you, Hatton ducked Floyd at 140. And Hatton walking around at 170 means that he has to drain himself to and lose 30lbs to get to jr.welterweight.

If anything, fighting at 147 helped to be stronger and less weight drained.

[joshyp18]

you are a complete joke

[Vladimir303]

He just wants the attention that he's getting, bless

Yeah that's it.