If Floyd moved up to super-middleweight

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  • joshyp18
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    #151
    if anything it helped are you serious. Everyone who has followed rickys career know that he has struggled and looked out of his depth when he has moved up to welterweight. How on earth can you say that the weight draining helps him. You are basically saying that he should train till he makes the 147lb limit and then stop. When he is in fit shape rickys weight is around the 140lb limit he is a natural junior welterweight. He has never failed to make the weight so no he doesnt struggle. Yet he is always 2+ lb under when making the welterweight limit so it proves you chat rubbish. Are you american?

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    • slicksouthpaw16
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      #152
      Originally posted by vladimir303
      I gave my opinion and gave solid reasoning why Floyd would win.


      Either way..........Good Riddance.......nice sparring with ya.
      I didn't see that. I seen you give bias views and its sounds more like you are doing wishful thinking. Being a fan is understandable, but being delusional isn't. You are using Hopkins and Toney (two naturally bigger than Mayweather by a few weight classes) as measuring sticks to see what a smaller fighter would do. Leonard, Jones ect didn't come up from super featherweight and have trouble handling a junior middleweight that was 6 years past his true prime(Oscar). If Mayweather couldn't impose his ''skills'' on Oscar, what makes you think that he would do it on a natural super middleweight that is currently fresher than Oscar, punches harder, a lot bigger, taller, longer reach ect? Because it wouldn't happen.

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      • CraigM
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        #153
        I think its because he beat the big show

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        • Vladimir303
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          #154
          Originally posted by joshyp18
          if anything it helped are you serious. Everyone who has followed rickys career know that he has struggled and looked out of his depth when he has moved up to welterweight. How on earth can you say that the weight draining helps him. You are basically saying that he should train till he makes the 147lb limit and then stop. When he is in fit shape rickys weight is around the 140lb limit he is a natural junior welterweight. He has never failed to make the weight so no he doesnt struggle. Yet he is always 2+ lb under when making the welterweight limit so it proves you chat rubbish. Are you american?
          You don't know anything about the physics of boxing do ya???

          Hatton is killing himself in the gym just so he can make weight. His health is gonna be horrible in a few years from all the weight gain and weight loss in between fights. If you weigh 170lbs then it's healthier to fight at 147 then 140.

          Why don't you ask Fernando Vargas - a guy who sometimes weighted as much as 200lbs but lost alot of weight so he can compete at 154. That **** shorted his career and made him old at age 30. It wasn't just the punches he took but a combination of taking punches and losing alot of weight for every fight.

          Hatton has no choice but to fight at 140 because he sucks at 147 but soon he will have trouble making weight and that's when his career is over.

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          • Vladimir303
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            #155
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
            I didn't see that. I seen you give bias views and its sounds more like you are doing wishful thinking. Being a fan is understandable, but being delusional isn't. You are using Hopkins and Toney (two naturally bigger than Mayweather by a few weight classes) as measuring sticks to see what a smaller fighter would do. Leonard, Jones ect didn't come up from super featherweight and have trouble handling a junior middleweight that was 6 years past his true prime(Oscar). If Mayweather couldn't impose his ''skills'' on Oscar, what makes you think that he would do it on a natural super middleweight that is currently fresher than Oscar, punches harder, a lot bigger, taller, longer reach ect? Because it wouldn't happen.
            Styles make fights. Oscar is a very skilled fighter.

            Joe Calzaghe couldn't land **** and had trouble against a 43 year old guy who had nothing left offensively.

            Floyd would land counters on Joe all night. The reach and height don't make a difference, Floyd has fought 6 foot tall guys before. A guy who comes straight ahead and punches like a fairy isn't guaranteed to beat a great smaller fighter with superior defense and offense.

            No guarantees either way. You can call it bias to make yourself feel better but that's how I see it. It's not a impossible task for Floyd.

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            • RichCCFC
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              #156
              This thread has proved only one thing.. You're a bigger ****ing idiot than I initially thought.

              P4P Calzaghe wins anyway, eat that bitches.

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              • Vladimir303
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                #157
                Originally posted by _Ricky_
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                P4P Calzaghe wins anyway, eat that bitches.
                Can I get a J

                Can I get a O

                Can I get E


                Put the Pom-pons down.

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                • joshyp18
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by vladimir303
                  You don't know anything about the physics of boxing do ya???

                  Hatton is killing himself in the gym just so he can make weight. His health is gonna be horrible in a few years from all the weight gain and weight loss in between fights. If you weigh 170lbs then it's healthier to fight at 147 then 140.

                  Why don't you ask Fernando Vargas - a guy who sometimes weighted as much as 200lbs but lost alot of weight so he can compete at 154. That **** shorted his career and made him old at age 30. It wasn't just the punches he took but a combination of taking punches and losing alot of weight for every fight.

                  Hatton has no choice but to fight at 140 because he sucks at 147 but soon he will have trouble making weight and that's when his career is over.
                  You are a moron you are saying to me that it his healthier to fight at 147 than 140 which is just 7lb difference. You have the cheek to say i dont know the physics of boxing when you are posting threads claiming mayweather could beat Joe Calzaghe at super middleweight. That is just a ****** comment to make. I suggest you stop loving mayweather take your posters down of him off your wall and shut up.

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                  • Vladimir303
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by joshyp18
                    You are a moron you are saying to me that it his healthier to fight at 147 than 140 which is just 7lb difference. You have the cheek to say i dont know the physics of boxing when you are posting threads claiming mayweather could beat Joe Calzaghe at super middleweight. That is just a ****** comment to make. I suggest you stop loving mayweather take your posters down of him off your wall and shut up.
                    Insults aren't gonna get you anywhere with me junior. I educated you on the weight issue and gave you the Fernando Vargas example of losing too much weight for every fight and the impact it has on your health down the road.

                    Apparently you're not getting it or you don't wanna get it. Either way you're boring me now lil mutant. Run along.

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                    • joshyp18
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by vladimir303
                      Insults aren't gonna get you anywhere with me junior. I educated you on the weight issue and gave you the Fernando Vargas example of losing too much weight for every fight and the impact it has on your health down the road.

                      Apparently you're not getting it or you don't wanna get it. Either way you're boring me now lil mutant. Run along.
                      I dont really care if vargas health was damaged. So was michael watson, mclellan, ali etc etc because boxing is a physical sport you absolute ****** american fool. Go home worship your little gayweather. Why dont you post threads saying mayweather for presidant of usa? or i want to be mayweathers boyfriend. You are a sausage arent you lol

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