If Floyd moved up to super-middleweight

[paulstokes2432]

Because it would be a career high payday and Joe is after the money right now.

Because he would be motivated to give the P4P best fighter in the world his first loss.

If Floyd offered Joe this fight at 162lb...........Joe would take it.

This thread is ****** everybody knows that Joe Struggles to make 168 and couldn't get any lower than that so a catch weight fight cannot happen. At 168 Calzaghe would walk through Mayweathers shots and could land at will, Mayweather would not have the power to make any of his speed or other skills work in his favour.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Save me the education superior ****. If you're done then you're done, you didn't teach or convince anybody of anything. If anything I educated you. The points you tried to make are so flawed that you're giving me plenty of material to respond back to....like I did. Save face and quit since you've already said twice that you're done.

All of the knowledgeable posters are disagreeing with you and most are even calling you an idiot. That has to tell you something.

[RichCCFC]

How has he come to this conclusion when he wont even fight the next best fighter in his division - Cotto?



This topic is a joke, like all these Floyd fan boys.

[Vladimir303]

You keep going on about "Joe's lack of skills, lack of power and unable to beat a 43year old" but can I ask..... Being 100% honest is Bernard the only Calzaghe fight you have ever seen??

If not which others because I wonder where what your basing your opinions on?

I've seen pretty much all of his fights that were aired on showtime and HBO. I'm not impressed. He looked like Ray Leonard in there against a over muscular, less experienced title holder in Jeff Lacy. Good Victory but Lacy is not a great fighter. There is a reason why Calzaghe and his handlers kept him safe in Cardiff, Wales all these years, protecting him, fighting any C+ level fighter who was willing to come over.

Lack of power = knocked down Eubank 2ce for only the 3rd and 4th time in his career KO'd the undefeated Viet in 1st round, More recently... knocked Lacy from pillar to post and put him on the canvas, Hurt Kessler with a big body shot. Wore down Hopkins with body shots that forced him to take 5min rests at the end of the fight. SO lack of power = WRONG!

Lack of skills = has beaten MANY unbeaten fighters including former, current and future world champions. Could a slapper with no skill really do that over a 15year / 45fight career? Everyone loks bad against Hopkins but Calzaghe still hit him with more punches than anybody else has managed since Compubox started tracking fights! SO Lack of skills = WRONG!

He wouldn't land any of that stuff on Mayweather that he landed on Eubank or Lacy. And he wouldn't outwork Mayweather the way he outworked Kessler and Hopkins. Floyd is a more elusive target, better defense and great counter punching. Calzaghe is already a off balance fighter, against Floyd he would look even more sloppy.

As for him fighting Mayweather, that is a joke. Mayweather is the best p4p without a doubt but even he couldn't overcome a full blown Super Middle! It really is just fantasy!

Floyd has handled 6 foot tall fighters before and he can handle Calzaghe. Styles make fights and Joe isn't anything that PBF couldn't handle. Never say Never. Floyd doesn't rely on strength to beat fighters, otherwise he wouldn't made it as far as jr.middleweight. He would have stayed at jr.welter where he belongs. Floyd transcends weight like James Toney.

[Vladimir303]

This thread is ****** everybody knows that Joe Struggles to make 168 and couldn't get any lower than that so a catch weight fight cannot happen. At 168 Calzaghe would walk through Mayweathers shots and could land at will, Mayweather would not have the power to make any of his speed or other skills work in his favour.

You guys are seriously overrating Joe Calzaghe. That 45-0 has made some people delusional like it's mission impossible for a smaller, very skilled fighter to go in there Cory Spinks Vs Jermain Taylor style and outbox the bigger lesser skilled fighter and win some sort of a decision.

[Vladimir303]

All of the knowledgeable posters are disagreeing with you and most are even calling you an idiot. That has to tell you something.

I knew that could be the case when I decided to make this thread. And there are a few knowledgable posters who also agree with me.

Either way, it doesn't matter and I'm sticking to my guns.

[RichCCFC]

Calzaghe KO 1 Mayweather with the very first slap.

[Vladimir303]

Calzaghe KO 1 Mayweather with the very first slap.

Why do you keep responding with those lame one lineres? You're not contributing anything relevant. If it's a joke then it's a joke why keep acting up and getting all ****tional?

[TheGreatA]

Duran the smaller guy moved up to middleweight and failed to beat Marvin Hagler because his usual stuff didn't work against a bigger fighter who happens to be great at that weight.

Sugar Ray Leonard moved up and won a close disputed decision because he had the skills that Duran didn't.

Never say Never.

Leonard used the same strategy as Duran did against Marvin Hagler. Duran was actually ahead on points against Hagler after 12 rounds! Hagler catched up in the last 3 rounds though, the scorecards at the end of the fight read 144-142, 146-145 & 144-143, all for Hagler.

Duran's downfall was the fact that Hagler was 4 years younger than against Leonard and that the fight was scheduled for 15 rounds. Leonard would've lost a 15 round fight as well.

Hagler at 5'9, 160 lbs (never weighed any more than that) was also smaller than the 5'11, 168-175 lb Calzaghe (probably closer to 180 lbs in the ring) and Leonard was 5'10 with success at higher weights (held LMW, MW & SMW titles) unlike Mayweather who is 5'8 and started at SFW.

Mayweather is smart enough not to pursue fights at MW against Pavlik and at SMW against Calzaghe although they could do great things for his legacy and his bank account (not that he is poor).

[paulstokes2432]

You guys are seriously overrating Joe Calzaghe. That 45-0 has made some people delusional like it's mission impossible for a smaller, very skilled fighter to go in there Cory Spinks Vs Jermain Taylor style and outbox the bigger lesser skilled fighter and win some sort of a decision.

Spinks only stepped up from little middle to middle and Taylor was awful its not about overrating calzaghe i wouldn't give mayweather much chance against any of the top SMWs he's just to small and doesn't have massive power at WW so can't see him having the power to keep these much much bigger guys off him.