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  • Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    No! That's the beauty of the lineal title. There was only one being contested that night. The Holmes fight.

    The belts didn't count, at least to us. One lineal title. Dozens of SB straps.
    Lol, there was only one WBC title being contested too!

    And you can bet your life, that was the title that Holmes, Witherspoon, and the fans in the arena were really interested in.

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    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

      Lol, there was only one WBC title being contested too!

      And you can bet your life, that was the title that Holmes, Witherspoon, and the fans in the arena were really interested in.
      No! I disagree. I believe the fans knew who the real champion was and which fight was the real HW Championship fight. That was the lineal title at work.

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      • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

        There are 4 recognised world title sanctioning orgs in the sport. World class boxing revolves around those belts, not the imaginary lineal title. The man you recognise as the lineal champion has said that the lineal title is bullshit and means nothing to him. That should be all anybody needs to know.
        Usyk doesn't have to care. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And it's much better than watching the ABC Bozo's ridiculously rate fighters. A belt doesn't make a champion, a champion makes the belt. Let's all bow down to the Charles Martins of boxing and declare the a world champion!! What world though is still a mystery.

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        • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

          There are 4 recognised world title sanctioning orgs in the sport. World class boxing revolves around those belts, not the imaginary lineal title. The man you recognise as the lineal champion has said that the lineal title is bullshit and means nothing to him. That should be all anybody needs to know.
          Again, more B.S. for the thrill of a troll. At least you're consistent with this.
          Usyk is a fighter, not a historian. The IBF doesn't show him as their champion. Only that he's "ineligible " to contend for their concept of the title. How is that a reasonable system? The lineal title is in every book that lists the heavyweight champions; and anything but imaginary. Its as accepted and as real as the list of Presidents, Popes, English sovereigns, etc. = Too late to edit now. Lol

          One world = One Heavyweight title.
          Maybe the Saudis can get the mimi divisions on that track.
          Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 03-31-2025, 12:44 PM.
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          • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

            Again, more B.S. for the thrill of a troll. At least you're consistent with this.
            Usyk is a fighter, not a historian. The IBF doesn't show him as their champion. Only that he's "ineligible " to contend for their concept of the title. How is that a reasonable system? The lineal title is in every book that lists the heavyweight champions; and anything but imaginary. Its as accepted and as real as the list of Presidents, Popes, English sovereigns, etc. = Too late to edit now. Lol

            One world = One Heavyweight title.
            Maybe the Saudis can get the mimi divisions on that track.
            Nah! We Don't want it to change. The SBs give us more "championship" fights, which pleases the media.

            It gets worked out in the long run; the real champions rise to the top as lineal champions and are remembered. Good enough.

            Let the media, the fighters, and the casuals have their claimant titles. More fights for us.

            Also, these multiple titles work as a ranking system. Take Joshua and Usyk for example.

            AJ positioned himself as the #1 contender by collecting multiple belts. Usyk stole AJ's #1 ranking and got a shot at Fury.

            I see (use) the sanctioning bodies' title holders as 'pennant' winners ready to compete in the 'World Series' (for the lineal title).
            Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 03-31-2025, 01:15 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              Again, more B.S. for the thrill of a troll. At least you're consistent with this.
              Usyk is a fighter, not a historian. The IBF doesn't show him as their champion. Only that he's "ineligible " to contend for their concept of the title. How is that a reasonable system? The lineal title is in every book that lists the heavyweight champions; and anything but imaginary. Its as accepted and as real as the list of Presidents, Popes, English sovereigns, etc. = Too late to edit now. Lol

              One world = One Heavyweight title.
              Maybe the Saudis can get the mimi divisions on that track.
              Napoleon Bonaparte ~ "History is lies agreed upon"
              Last edited by kafkod; 03-31-2025, 01:39 PM.

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              • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                Napoleon Bonaparte ~ "History is lies agreed upon"
                And who les more than the ABC orgs? Yet you agree upon it. Interesting.

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                • Yes, we should all trust the ABC orgs. Read this and tell me why? It's all about money, that's it. Not the boxers, not the sport, just lining their greedy little pockets.

                  https://www.espn.com/boxing/news/2002/0921/1434892.html

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                  • Here's more.....

                    https://www.espn.com/boxing/news/1999/1104/150697.html

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                    • More....

                      https://assets.espn.go.com/boxing/co...m/1097210.html

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