Send in a fighter to destroy Mayweather Jr

[Bronson66]

Right, not avoiding at all.

I'm still curious why something that did not work past a man's prime is meant to work during said prime.

Also, Baby had a 68 inch reach

Bobby at 66

and Armstrong at 67

Floyd don't like fighting longer armed guy. These short armed big named dudes are his specialty.

I'd listen and give due gravitas to your opinion on BK fighting,but not on modern boxing.
The longer armed opponents of Mayweather
Gatti
Mitchell
Manfredy
Corrales
Hernandez
Judah
Were some of Mayweather's easiest fights.

[Bronson66]

He wasn't out of shape but he was still no where even close to the best version of himself though, which is the point. Why compare a version of Mayweather who wasn't the best version of himself vs a prime version of someone else? It doesn't make any sense.

It's not your opinion I'm combatting, I'd probably also pick both to beat Floyd prime vs prime (in close decisions)

I'm combatting the logic. It doesn't make sense. I have no doubt Duran and Armstrong have tools to trouble Mayweather but it would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact a 37 year old Mayweather struggled with Marcos Maidana.

The difference to me is the quality of the men I named.I think Armstrong and Duran are a couple of levels above the likes of Maidana ,higher enough to beat a prime Mayweather.

Maidana was hardly a kid at 32/33 .

This debate is getting pedantic so I'm out.

[joseph5620]

Not really, doesn't answer it outside of just your opinion, no. I don't necessarily disagree with that position, but I do disagree with the logic being used to get there.

Your argument was a 37 year old, well passed prime Mayweather was pushed close by Maidana therefore Duran and Armstrong would prove it.

I can't for the life of me grasp the logic behind that argument, and it's isn't the first time I've heard it.

Armstrong was outboxed easily in his prime by Baby Arizmendi. Does that prove Mayweather, a superior boxer would beat Armstrong?

Duran was outboxed by Kirkland Laing. Does that prove Mayweather, a superior boxer would beat Duran?

I'll also add that Duran was thoroughly outboxed and dominated by Wilfred Benitez. That was a well conditioned and motivated Duran too.

Win or lose, Mayweather would be a very difficult matchup for him.

[IronDanHamza]

The difference to me is the quality of the men I named.I think Armstrong and Duran are a couple of levels above the likes of Maidana ,higher enough to beat a prime Mayweather.

Maidana was hardly a kid at 32/33 .

This debate is getting pedantic so I'm out.

Surely that argument again goes the other way also with Mayweather being a level above Arizmendi and about 5 levels above Kirkland Laing?

[IronDanHamza]

I'll also add that Duran was thoroughly outboxed and dominated by Wilfred Benitez. That was a well conditioned and motivated Duran too.

Win or lose, Mayweather would be a very difficult matchup for him.

Can go even further, Duran was beaten by Robbie Sims at age 35.

Why not do 30 year old Mayweather who fought De La Hoya vs that version of Duran? Who wins that fight?

Would that be proof that Mayweather beats Duran?

[Marchegiano]

I'd listen and give due gravitas to your opinion on BK fighting,but not on modern boxing.
The longer armed opponents of Mayweather
Gatti
Mitchell
Manfredy
Corrales
Hernandez
Judah
Were some of Mayweather's easiest fights.

Huge miscommunication here bro, my bad. This is on me.



To be super direct and very unmistakable; my opinion shouldn't mean anything to anyone at any time on any subject, unless, it makes you think. Because I am not here to teach, I am here to learn. I do share of course but that's just so I can learn and this is a perfect case-in-point.



I didn't really look, I half checked Dee's claim then put it on you. I actually posted about it if you look back to the earlier pages.



So, that said, my dude ... what does the charge avoided longer reach fighter mean to you? Out of 49 pro boxers you managed to drum up 6 and call them easy. I'm confused how that doesn't make my point for me. Floyd ain't scared of short armed latinos who take breaks on their fitness bro. All night, every day, that's the majority of dude's career. It looks to me Dee has a fair point and if you want to shake that you got to come at me with more than 6 and more than but Gatti was easy work doe. They were all easy work, it's Floyd.





Also, sure you're not wrong like if you have a question in the BK era or past it, actually especially past it, I am a good person to ask for that stuff but don't assume one of my rambles is a genuine stance without asking. I put out opinions to see the response not always because I believe them.

[DeeMoney]

I'd listen and give due gravitas to your opinion on BK fighting,but not on modern boxing.
The longer armed opponents of Mayweather
Gatti
Mitchell
Manfredy
Corrales
Hernandez
Judah
Were some of Mayweather's easiest fights.

But none of them had more reach than he...and some of those were significantly less.

As I initially wrote, I just found it interesting that other than DLH he never fought anyone that had more reach than him. Which fits well with the strategy of blade the stance, remain on the outside, use the speed & timing advantage to pop and move.

Thats not to write that guys who could get inside wouldn't give him trouble (Duran, Armstrong), though I think those two would be better at LW than Welter.

[billeau2]

Armstrong would be poison for Junior... I know It is going way back... But it is the history section lol.

[Nash out]

Amir Khan, the runner rigged the Peterson vs Khan fight by employing the Man in the Hat, then the runner put Khan or Maidana for his next opponent, Khan won the vote, yet the Runner fought Maidana. Khan's leftovers, and got hell over two fights vs him as well. Khan's speed, aggression, power, and skill would have been too much, and Mayweather lacked the big punch to crack Khan's glass chin. The Skype, sorry, I mean the hype, for the fight would have been great, but it's a fact Runner ducked Khan, so we need to award Khan the victory, so Runner did lose a fight.

Khan keeps calling Runner out now, but Runner keeps fighting bums to avoid the Great Khan. Runner ran, it's what he does best, but he never ran further away from anyone than he did prime Amir Khan. Nash out - His Majesty

[Bronson66]

Huge miscommunication here bro, my bad. This is on me.



To be super direct and very unmistakable; my opinion shouldn't mean anything to anyone at any time on any subject, unless, it makes you think. Because I am not here to teach, I am here to learn. I do share of course but that's just so I can learn and this is a perfect case-in-point.



I didn't really look, I half checked Dee's claim then put it on you. I actually posted about it if you look back to the earlier pages.



So, that said, my dude ... what does the charge avoided longer reach fighter mean to you? Out of 49 pro boxers you managed to drum up 6 and call them easy. I'm confused how that doesn't make my point for me. Floyd ain't scared of short armed latinos who take breaks on their fitness bro. All night, every day, that's the majority of dude's career. It looks to me Dee has a fair point and if you want to shake that you got to come at me with more than 6 and more than but Gatti was easy work doe. They were all easy work, it's Floyd.





Also, sure you're not wrong like if you have a question in the BK era or past it, actually especially past it, I am a good person to ask for that stuff but don't assume one of my rambles is a genuine stance without asking. I put out opinions to see the response not always because I believe them.

I said some of the easiest not easy 6?
I'll add
Pep
Nunez
Cerna
Vargas
Juuko
De la Hoya being the only one with a longer reach 73"
That makes 12. I checked!