Send in a fighter to destroy Mayweather Jr

[JAB5239]

He could box with him.

I think his size, jab, speed and output would what would lead Leonard to victory.

Welterweight is Mayweather's 4th weight class. I'd pick most elite historical WW's to favour over him.

At his first weight class, 130 lbs, I don't favour many, if any.

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Robinson, Duran and Hearns i can't see losing. Gavilan, Griffin, Naples, Ross, Armstrong.....it's a pickem.

[JeBron Lamez]

Welterweight is Mayweather's 4th weight class. I'd pick most elite historical WW's to favour over him.

At his first weight class, 130 lbs, I don't favour many, if any.

Pep or Arguello at 130.

[IronDanHamza]

Pep or Arguello at 130.

Arguello has next to no chance.

Pep, possibly but I also doubt that aswell.

[Marchegiano]

Yes, you are right. The answer is Hearns at WW. As you stated, his weakness (chin) is something Floyd didnt really take advantage of.

On the other hand, one of Mayweather's biggest assets, reach, Tommy negates. I think De La Hoya was the only opponent Mayweather had who had a longer reach than him, and May used this to his advantage. Mayweather would stand in his blade stance and combine being quicker with having greater reach to just pop his opponents and move away.

Hearns negates that reach advantage, by a lot. Mayweather is still quicker, and probably has better timing, but he would have to get inside Tommy's reach to land, and that doesnt work well with him.

I thought that was interesting and for all the hater hate out there I never heard one bring up a reach advantage. Cry about home field all damn day but nothing on reach. So I started to poke around boxrec.


They got Floyd at 72

McNugget at 74 ... being McNugget ODH is still the only real opponent.

Oscar is 73 for those interested in the actual amount.

Zab at 72 is a tie

Mitchell is also 72

according to HBO's tale of the tape Ndou is 73

I stopped checking at Augustus.


Crazy, never knew the majority he had reach on. You weren't wrong, if there's anyone else of note worth mention it's earlier in his career.



Good ****in post dude.

[Bronson66]

I think the absolute worst stylistic match up for Mayweather is the welter version of Hearns.

Floyd lacked the power to hurt Tommy who himself was never outboxed in his entire career.

I think that Hearns was fast enough to land that ballistic missile of a right eventually.

Then it's over.

Maidana showed what nonstop pressure could achieve against Floyd , better pressure fighters,Duran and Armstrong would prove it.

[QueensburyRules]

If someone said Mayweather was the greatest pure boxer ever, I have no qualm.

But there are many lads who fought at welter who would beat him IMO. The reason is simple--he was not a welterweight, he had the frame of a lightweight. He managed to beat all existing welterweights because he was that much better; he studied better and was much more well rounded. There was nothing fake about his medicine bag, it was seemingly full of every trick and technique known to boxers.

I will be scorned for it, but MW has more breadth and depth than any boxer I can think of. He had a hella lot more to draw from in emergencies than most or maybe all boxers before him. But he had learned so well that emergencies were few and far between. I want to give the lad his credit.

That said, it may be shorter to list past champions he would beat than vice versa, or whatever the hell I am talking about. I list who he probably would probably lose to, in my view. MW is a 1rst table ATG, so he has a chance against any welterweight under Queensbury rules. That should be clear.

I do not know all past WW champs from personally watching them. Literally everything is sheer guesswork anyway, mind you, from either of us.

Welterweights I favor over Mayweather:

Langford
Walcott
Robinson
Leonard
Hearns
Griffith
Napoles
Walker
Armstrong
Servo
Gavilan
Curry
Crawford
Duran
Whitaker
De La Hoya Trinidad

Other than that, there are as many I could not list who are ATGs too, but I am too ignorant of them to bring them into play. Others will do that though.

P.S. I had to come back to add a few names.

- - l'l floydy the best treasure fighter as measured in purse earnings, and also one of the most protected fighters ever with most of his title bouts MGM Vegas with his own commish, judges, and referee.

Biggest ring sissy that I can recall. Never seed a growed man go running crying fer his crack daddy to save him.

[JeBron Lamez]

Arguello has next to no chance.

Pep, possibly but I also doubt that aswell.

Alexis Arguello at 130 was dynamic, scientific violence & destruction personified.

[IronDanHamza]

Alexis Arguello at 130 was dynamic, scientific violence & destruction personified.

I'm well aware of who Alexis Arguello is. He is in my Top 5 all time favourite fighters and I was in attendance in 1981 in London when he beat Jim Watt.

But the long and short of it there probably isn't a worst style match up for him than Mayweather at 130 lbs.

He was outboxed by both Fernandez and Ramirez, both at 135 yes (which I felt was actually his better weight any way) struggling massively with movement. That's where he struggled as fluid he is with his combinations and devastating his with his punches, particularly the right hand, his feet are slow and need to be set to let them go.

He has no chance against Mayweather, outside of a one punch KO.

[IronDanHamza]

Maidana showed what nonstop pressure could achieve against Floyd , better pressure fighters,Duran and Armstrong would prove it.

Are we comparing a 37 year old Mayweather vs a Prime Duran and Armstrong? If so, why?

Didn't Kirkland Laing outbox Duran easily when Duran was age 31? Why not match prime Mayweather vs that version of Duran if we are going to do prime vs past prime versions of fighters in match ups? Surely by that same logic if Laing can outbox Duran then Mayweather wins 12-0?

Doesn't make any sense. Duran and Armstrong were both outboxed by lesser fighters/boxers than Mayweather, the same argument you are using for them beating Mayweather can used the other way around.

[Bronson66]

Are we comparing a 37 year old Mayweather vs a Prime Duran and Armstrong? If so, why?

Didn't Kirkland Laing outbox Duran easily when Duran was age 31? Why not match prime Mayweather vs that version of Duran if we are going to do prime vs past prime versions of fighters in match ups? Surely by that same logic if Laing can outbox Duran then Mayweather wins 12-0?

Doesn't make any sense. Duran and Armstrong were both outboxed by lesser fighters/boxers than Mayweather, the same argument you are using for them beating Mayweather can used the other way around.

Prime Duran and Armstrong to beat prime Mayweather.does that answer your question? Hearns and De la Hoya have excellent chances too.