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[Marchegiano]

TF is it then a DNF?!...

[Marchegiano]

Usually when a men is debuting while another is champion we consider the era the champion's not the debutant's. Usually when a champion linger long enough for a full career to catch up to him we consider that aged out and astrix that win.

I'd like to know exactly when is meant to be the...

[Marchegiano]

Oh man, I wish every goddamn day it wasn't my generation that totally sold out to the man, but we are. Look at politics! Where are my punks at? Where's the anti establishment? The anti authority? Nah dog, we got anti-****

There be absolutely no ****ing shelter here! Red or blue,...

[Marchegiano]

I already responded to a post that supplements a response with a resume between that one and this so forgive me if by way of shortness I seem rude. I'm just being to the point:

I don't see anything here that even attempts to detract from anything I said. I'm pretty sure you'll find none...

[Marchegiano]

Names and dates matter, just in general. Generalized information brought into sharp detail strips away the need to share opinions with the facts.

Or to say that differently; I get ya bud, I'm like the worst audience to speak to and I feel your frustration but I promise you are in no way...

[Marchegiano]

I don't understand why I should see some website born out of the Tyson Fury claim as any kind of authority.


Any jabroni can start a website...

[Marchegiano]

I think it's interesting you talk **** about Mike's resume prior to Lennox and cite the men Lennox beat while Mike was in prison as somehow anything but Mike Tyson's leftovers or worse.

After Mike went to prison?! Mike Tyson's time in prison is 92-95 ennit?

Bilups
Aforementioned...

[Marchegiano]

Seems not terribly dissimilar to white promoters of color line champions signing fights then ****ing with commissions to make sure the scheduling can't actually happen.




So, as I have it:


Ali catches a conviction, NBA/NYSAC officially strip him immediately,...

[Marchegiano]

Wlad is always listed 2009 after Ruslan

08 Ring has Ruslan at 3

09 Ring has Ruslan at 4

Not sure even Ring sticks to Ring 1 and 2

[Marchegiano]

Strong disagree bro.



I include a full fighter's run. Holyfield's a CW champion too and arguably the greatest. Not saying you have to yourself, just if you want to argue with me about my choices you need to understand them.

For timing I do look at who was in amateurs...

[Marchegiano]

His story is so covered, the first time I ever actually ran across it was in a comic book! That sort of media is the bulk of Ali info for most of my life. Then you see his fights on YT, well at least I got to, before the copyright lawyer got on YT. Anyway the point is, I'm probably not alone in saying...

[Marchegiano]

GOAT candidate actually



The same exact posters who say things like Holy should be discredited for roids, despite Holy having never popped dirty, will defend a litany of champions who didn't even bother making any pretense of fairness or global representation.

[Marchegiano]

Were any of the color line champions consistent?


Because, the whole race riot deal. I don't hardly speak to it because it seems a silly response to me.


Even John L had to put on a show like he was willing to fight a black man. But race riots might happened doe...

[Marchegiano]

Let me reword, realign, and adjust:


One of you older guys, it has to be one of you and not me because of your actual connection to the era, needs to tell this story including details most fans take for granted when speaking to other fans. Trust me when I say if I didn't know Ali...

[Marchegiano]

You may be giving me too much respect because of my wealth of knowledge dealing with older issues. I have no shame in saying, probably, everyone here, including Queen, knows this subject better than I do. I have never done any independent research into Ali or this situation.


That...

[Marchegiano]

To be honest I think I missed the point.


Because Ali got stripped now Frazier is worthy and this somehow is the grace of the lineal or lineage?


As far as I know Ali's stripping was across the board. As in no org stuck their neck out for him. I have, in the past,...

[Marchegiano]

Love you dude! Hell yes this is an important and under discussed topic.


Once upon a time a younger me took it upon himself to take down 80s mag myths. I was met with such refusal to accept what is plainly evident it's still flabbergasting.



You probably...

[Marchegiano]

Oh?

Like how Nat pretends Sambo Sutton and Young Sambo are the same man?...

[Marchegiano]

I have an odd obsession? TF are you talking about Dempsey in my Criticize Burns thread? Bro it's cool but let's not throw mud from our mud huts yeah?


I find it interesting. No different than you apparently finding the life and times of Jack Dempsey so interesting he seems...

[Marchegiano]

Willow The Wisp

I am pathetically petty!



But really it's more to do with the fact I've found no better way to get people engaged. If you make it easy for them to give you the brush-off, they do it. Not a single one of these newish threads from me voices...