Vitali Klitschko, the last great heavyweight

[billeau2]

The question is regarding PED use and keeping the same standard. If one person is disqualified from being an ATG for PED use then everyone who tested positive for PED use should be.

And the question was answered where?

Oh yeah, no where you fucking idiot.

He answered you each time you tried your "gotcha." Did you want him to film himself supplicating? Did he stutter and say "Well maybe not for Toney but for others?" No... He stated unequivically that indeed, Toney's use deserved an asterick. Your hate of Toney blinded you again Dan Bye Bye.

[them_apples]

- - Sorry to hear about your Viagra addiction. There's counseling help that might help you.

lmao I don't even know what you are responding to

[IronDanHamza]

He answered you each time you tried your "gotcha." Did you want him to film himself supplicating? Did he stutter and say "Well maybe not for Toney but for others?" No... He stated unequivically that indeed, Toney's use deserved an asterick. Your hate of Toney blinded you again Dan Bye Bye.

I literally asked an incredibly simple, yes or no question and not a single time was it answered, instead it was evaded and tapped danced around.

It's right there above. This is a question about PED use and keeping the same standard. Very simple

And saying Toney's deserves an asterisk is not answering the question either is it, you brain dead cunt.

[QueensburyRules]

lmao I don't even know what you are responding to

- - Denial is to be expected.

No real man wants to be dependent on Viagra or it's counterfeits, but the world's waterways are seriously contaminated with Viagra and other drugs that you might be on, so there is no hope for you or subsequent generations.

[them_apples]

- - Denial is to be expected.

No real man wants to be dependent on Viagra or it's counterfeits, but the world's waterways are seriously contaminated with Viagra and other drugs that you might be on, so there is no hope for you or subsequent generations.

I usually get em' from older guys like you, I don't readily have a prescription. it's a party drug for me.

[QueensburyRules]

I usually get em' from older guys like you, I don't readily have a prescription. it's a party drug for me.

- - Except I don't do any illicit drugs save what I may get in food contamination that is globally rampant.

You saying you can't pass VADA screening any more than our politicians and business leaders whereas Canelo does routinely.

[them_apples]

- - Except I don't do any illicit drugs save what I may get in food contamination that is globally rampant.

You saying you can't pass VADA screening any more than our politicians and business leaders whereas Canelo does routinely.

I pass it every time, Viagra isn't a banned substance in VADA. you can easily get an exemption...wait

You think Canelo is clean??

[QueensburyRules]

I pass it every time, Viagra isn't a banned substance in VADA. you can easily get an exemption...wait

You think Canelo is clean??

- - Never failed a drug test is the best he can do.

Top boxers are tested infinitely more stringent than ball sports are, as well as politicians and business leaders.

I'm sure you have the docs showing you passed a VADA test that you should release to prove that you ain't lyin'. Say it ain't so, Joe!

[Dr. Z]

very underrated, and levels above Wlad in every category - Vitali was likely the last great heavyweight champion.

if he was in his prime today, Wilder, Fury and Joshua would be journeymen.

Not speaking on behalf of his resume, which I think is also underrated - Mostly from just viewing his fights and style.

Vitali had so many qualities that made him great:

6 ft 8, Iron chin, good defense, not lifted or blown up (natural size) which means better stamina and agility. and most of all HEART.

You can argue all you want, but Vitali would toy with Wlad had they ever fought.

Yes, he was the last great heavyweight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/boxing-history/31621566-is-vitali-klitschko-an-all-time-top-ten-heavyweight

[Willow The Wisp]

I literally asked an incredibly simple, yes or no question and not a single time was it answered, instead it was evaded and tapped danced around.

It's right there above. This is a question about PED use and keeping the same standard. Very simple

And saying Toney's deserves an asterisk is not answering the question either is it, you brain dead cunt.

It's just not a very important point in anyone's else's mind. PED asterisk? Sure, its cheating. Disqualify outright everything a fighter has accomplished? No. Not IMO anyway, and I have testified in person before 3 seperate state government boards on the topic over the past 11 years. It's OK to move on, we've all done it.