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who moves good today? I can't think of anyone who moves good today. Conn and Walcott move way better than anyone today if you can't see that then what are we even watching. You also forget Louis knocked conn out. He didn't lose to Usyk like Fury and Joshua did. Usyk isn't particularly fast either...Last edited by them_apples; 08-13-2025, 04:45 PM.
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Boxing Historical Archive GPT - first golden nugget (Johnson vs Ketchel)
Using the new GPT made for the boxing community with 250+ books uploaded into it so far: I came across this info about the Johnson vs Ketchel bout, and it aligns with what's on film
The Jack Johnson vs. Stanley Ketchel fight on October 16, 1909, in Colma, California, has one of boxings...
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Who did Hopkins beat that was as good as Nunn?
Put Toney in W trinidad or DLH its murder, he'd be too strong, too slick. one punch Trinidad ya right no chance. He'd stand right in front of him and beat on him....Last edited by them_apples; 08-12-2025, 09:15 PM.
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how am I back tracking??? when did I backtrack? have you gone mad? There is only ONE post you are referring too. You must be Hallucinating from the stack you are on.
I AM A FORMER PED USER AND I NOW PREACH HOW ****** AND OVERATED PEDS ARE. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE. There never was any backtracking,...Last edited by them_apples; 08-12-2025, 09:04 PM.
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Mike Gibbons
Burley
Flowers
Fitz
The thing is, I have a strong feeling guys like this are actually better than more famous fighters that came after them due to the television screen. I can't prove it off hand - it's just a vague notion in my mind. The television screen...
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yes but 5 ft 7 and 154 natty is a thick guy, but 183 is way too much. his hands aren't that big, he looks like a body builder....
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if you just look at his build, he's strong legged with a lean upperbody, watch for moments where he breaks character, he's very light and agile on his feet. He resumes the shuffling stance to hide it all in one neat and tidy package. he's get's into position like a jaguar stalking its prey.
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I was using in ring weights. I wanted to see how people thought Canelo stacks up against guys his size. I don't think he has the punch for LHW+ I think his weight is mass he is carrying, he's a smaller guy on a lot of supplements and not enough cardio.
He might be 183 lbs but he doesn't...
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absolutely. When fast appear slow - art of war esque thinking. This is how Louis caught them cold. Poker face poker body. He had the science down to a game of inches. in every sense of the word....JAB5239 likes this.
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wrong man
He has a perfect guard actually. He has his hands in position to punch with leverage, his right hand parrys, left hand lower for speed, he keeps an angle at all times and ducks when need be. As long as he keeps this angle facing, he's very hard to hit from this position and took...Last edited by them_apples; 08-12-2025, 10:46 AM.
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he's got quick feet, he moves them close to the ground "shuffling joe" as black burn taught him, so he can creep into position. he's always in position, and out when he needs to be. he's got some of the best footwork in boxing. A modern fighter, Pernell Whitaker was also good at this....DeeMoney likes this.
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They were both apparently 235. Rocky trained hard for it but was older, ali barely trained and paid the price for it. Just going by the accounts of what went down, doesn't mean the real fight plays out like this - but you do get a glimpse into how Marciano would fight him. He's everything he always...Last edited by them_apples; 08-12-2025, 09:37 AM.
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How is Hopkins better than Toney? Hopkins didn't beat up heavies as a fat middleweight. Hopkins didn't beat any really good fighters, just stayed consistent beating guys below him. I don't see how he tactically beat DLH or Trinidad, he was bigger, stronger and better than both all he had to do was brawl...
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he was already finished. Greb had so many injuries he kept opening up. broken ribs, arms, missing eyes - probably a slew of others he lived in denial about...
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nah, I wasn't convicted of anything, I told everyone. He tried cheating and competing. nothing you say makes any sense - your argument sounds like you are trying to confuse everyone on this forum who ends up reading this rivalry. There is only one post to draw information from, you keep using weird...
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