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  • QueensburyRules
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    Rocky vs Sonny Size Matchup

    - - While any photo of people in street clothes can be misleading as to size, I found this an interesting comparison.


    Be a good fight me thinks.




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    Just to pary with it . . .

    camera angle could cause distortion

    Liston is slumbing his shoulders: Rocky standing straight backed

    Rocky is overweight

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      #3
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules
      - - While any photo of people in street clothes can be misleading as to size, I found this an interesting comparison.


      Be a good fight me thinks.




      marciano-in-color-5.jpg
      With listons long arms im curious how he deals with Rocky coming in so close. Rocky is pretty strong so I wonder if Liston can keep shoving him back and hitting him. Cause if rocky gets inside hell maul Liston who wont be able to fight back with an 84 reach. Against patterson it’s different because he was so much stronger and had no respect.

      also Rocky in retirement was 235-255 lbs

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        #4
        Originally posted by them_apples

        With listons long arms im curious how he deals with Rocky coming in so close. Rocky is pretty strong so I wonder if Liston can keep shoving him back and hitting him. Cause if rocky gets inside hell maul Liston who wont be able to fight back with an 84 reach. Against patterson it’s different because he was so much stronger and had no respect.

        also Rocky in retirement was 235-255 lbs
        You can see the long arms in the photo.

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          #5
          Originally posted by them_apples

          With listons long arms im curious how he deals with Rocky coming in so close. Rocky is pretty strong so I wonder if Liston can keep shoving him back and hitting him. Cause if rocky gets inside hell maul Liston who wont be able to fight back with an 84 reach. Against patterson it’s different because he was so much stronger and had no respect.

          also Rocky in retirement was 235-255 lbs

          Rocky's arms are so short, he must have had problems are the mens urinal. Liston's are much longer for sure, but I never saw the reported 84" reach measured out correctly. He looks a shade taller than Marciano who was about 5'11". I think Rocky was big enough to face Liston. Whether he wins or not is a different story. If Liston's intangibles came into play. I'll take Marciano. If not, give me Liston.

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            - - Always favored Rocky, but only near the end of his career when he was the finished product, but yeah, gonna need to come in 195 lbs, and in no way am I discounting son who has more "modern movements" than cement footed Roc...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
              Just to pary with it . . .

              camera angle could cause distortion

              Liston is slumbing his shoulders: Rocky standing straight backed

              Rocky is overweight
              True. But if Marciano was younger and in his prime, he could get it done. Tough fight for either man.

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                #8
                I don't think either is 6 feet tall. Both in their prime, height would not be a factor.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by them_apples

                  With listons long arms im curious how he deals with Rocky coming in so close. Rocky is pretty strong so I wonder if Liston can keep shoving him back and hitting him. Cause if rocky gets inside hell maul Liston who wont be able to fight back with an 84 reach. Against patterson it’s different because he was so much stronger and had no respect.

                  also Rocky in retirement was 235-255 lbs


                  It means that both of these guys walked around over 220... Either one could have chosen to bulk up, or... come in as light and agile as possible. The picture is revealing in this respect. it shows that weight is only one aspect of being a heavy weight. I tend to believe that liston was underrated. He was an incredible finisher, IMO the best @ heavyweight, he was mean in the ring, had agility power and that reach... hard to bet against the Rock but Liston imo was the goods and then some.

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                    Originally posted by Dr. Z


                    Rocky's arms are so short, he must have had problems are the mens urinal. Liston's are much longer for sure, but I never saw the reported 84" reach measured out correctly. He looks a shade taller than Marciano who was about 5'11". I think Rocky was big enough to face Liston. Whether he wins or not is a different story. If Liston's intangibles came into play. I'll take Marciano. If not, give me Liston.
                    People buy into 6' Liston's reach being 84" which is ridiculous.

                    If Fury fought back then, people would actually believe he was 6'9 for the sake of mythologising him as an old era ATG.

                    I cannot remember which fight this was in, but it registered Liston's reach as 80.5" on the tale of the tape.

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