Why is some people putting fighters that they never seen. Yea I know you find tape & stuff. But how can a fighter be your favorite fighter, if you never have seen them at the time they were fighting. I will never put some of the old legends on my list, because I wasn't there to see them. I've seen Hagler & he was my idol when I was a kid. But guys like Robinson & Louis etc doesn't make any sense, unless you're really old & have seen them fight.
how can you say that? if you like a fighter you like him. my top 5 are all current guys but ali, leonard, and whitaker are in there and i didnt see any of them live. i saw some of whitakers fights live but not many. i like their way/wys of fighting in that order of my list. thats how someone is somebodys fav fighter in the order that they like the way that fighter fights.
would be or will be a great fight I do believe I would say PBF if I had to bet but will be cheering for Zab all day , Zab was out there in his boy Andre Easons corner last night but was not much help that Urango is a monster he looks like the JR. Welterwieght version of Jeff Lacy.
did they happen to interview zab or anything last night cause i figured he would be there with eason.
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this is a very smart business move by zab which mayweather is always claimging zab needs to take lessons from him in. i think mayweather should accept the 50-50 split since hes never fought at 147 and zab has every belt. what other undisputed champ would offer that to a fighter thats never even fought at the weight before? theres not one. aloso if mayweather refuses to go 50-50 for the titles than zab is saying "you can get more money but since thats the case no titles on the line". i think that is fair cause if mayweather wants the shot at undisputed he needs to accept 50-50 with the champ. if he wants more than he will have to deal with the fact that it wont be for the titles. and ill say this again but does anyone really think this wont be for the undisputed welterweight championship if they fight at 148. is anyone really gonna say that "well mayweathers not the champ cause he doesnt have the belts" if he beats zab. i really think this is a way of zab giving back a little mind games to floyd and he is playing excellently. i hope its for all the belts at 147 but like i said i wouldnt mid waiting until they clean everyone else out then they would get even more.
No they just showed him in the ring and His dad trains Eason.Eason got fucking dropped hard in the 7th and could not beat the ten but he is a pretty slick boxer but zero power.
ok i just wanted to know if he might have discussed the mayweather fight anymore.
Why would I be angry? I reported the person because I don't like people breaking copyright laws.
DAMN YOU ARE JUST GAY AS FUCK, YOU DAMN SNITCH. WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT FUKCING COPYRIGHT LAWS. YOU A GAY ASS COP OR SOME SHIT?
I don't agree, i think that Corrales kept the pressure on Casa in their second fight, and casa didn't land a clean shot until later in the 9th or 10th round.. Castillo and Freitas too, i don't see how u can say that casa should of won these fights..
that is a lie, all chico did was jab and miss with the jab the whole time. casa landed the much cleaner punches throughout. he even put him down in the 10th. castillo was absolutely embarrassed pretty much through the 9th round and yeah he won the last 2 but thats doesnt mean shit. casa landed by far the more effective punches with quitting soul glo bitch freitas, and the kd and point deduction were absolutely not the right calls. anyone can see please go back to the tape if you dont believe me and you will see that the "kd" in the 3rd round called by the most bias referee ever joe cortez was a complete trip on casa's part and freitas missed with his punch that he threw. as far as the diamond fight, casamayor YES CASAMAYOR who doesn thave great power put dimaond down and seriously hurt him in the first round. i was veru surprised when diamond got out of there. but again casa clearly landed the better punches and more punches overall, even though he threw less, so his accuracy was much better also. just b/c a guy is coming forward throwing punches doesnt mean he deserves to win the rounds, if hes landing them then ok we can have an argument but when hes just throwing thats dont mean shit. casa doesnt run either he gives angles and boxes beautifully. spinks is a runner, santos is a runner casa is not like that.
Thank you!!!The people that are commenting on the KD fight I bet they didn't even see the fight...the only reason they saying that is because Larry Merchant and Lampley were praising Diamond hardcore...it was pretty sad.
YES i cant believe it, someone who actually agrees with me on casamayor. everyone seems to hate the guy everywhere. ive liked him since i started watching boxing obsessively. ive always been impressed and im glad someone else saw the blow jobs lampley and merchant were giving diamond trying to push him as a big star. even before the fight they gave that little profile on him and nothing for casa.
Joe had the better defense and can take plenty of punishment. I'd also give Joe the advantage of better stamina and more heart. He'd outwork Tyson before Tyson would be tko'd in the 10th.
joe didnt have a better defense than a lot of people and tyson is included. tyson had a great defense probably the best ever, frazier had none all he did was come right in ducking but it wsnt a defense so much as just a habit of the way he fought. tyson was a lot more powerful than frazier also, and definitely faster and more accurate. tyson could have easily got under fraziers punches and slipped them to to counter with his huge hooks. might even be a repeat of tyson vs fraziers son marvis only it would go longer of course but i could see that kind of ending.
lol probably would, and could get a decision like dat if hatton misses and casa counters....
have you not seen casa get screwed 4 times in the corrales, castillo, freitas, and diamond fights. casa would easily outbox hatton for a decision win but of course he wouldnt get the W because even though he would lan the cleaner punches, and mor epunches with throwing less the idiot judges will always favor the unskilled brawler coming forward throwing punches, i mean who gives a shit if they land theyre being thrown right?
He certainly was great.
all ive seen is two fights of him and they were both the benn fights. and already im sold on the guy, i cant wait to eventually get more of his fights, i know theyre out there i just have to find the right people to trade with that need stuff from me to. as for colling i cant stand him and ive only seen his 2 fights with benn. hes just a generic white redneck looking fag. obviously hes no redneck since hes from scotland or wherever bu theyre gay to. i hate it that he has 2 wins over benn, and eubank. although im glad to see that some of you in here are saying that one of the eubank-collins fights was a robbery, i hope thats true and i look forward to seeing it. anyone pm me if you have fights of eubank. i have like 38-40 benn fights but let me know what you have i want to trade.
If you think about it, Winky suffers from Hopkins syndrome. Getting your fame from beating 2 blown up welterweights while they were 160 all their lives. Winky wont be a man among boys fighting Taylor like he was against Tito and Mosley. Last time he fought a talent his size he lost to Vargas. Same with Hopkins, he lost to Taylor.. Now people say WInky is unbeatable.... my ass. I think Taylor would win on points. These guys Winky fight who cant break an egg(tito's power didnt translate well, hell it took 8 rounds of hitting Mayorga flush to KO him and we all know Mosleys power is a joke) but this time when Winky gets in his little peek a boo shell Taylors power will shatter it. Plus he is now fighting someone with a better jab than him, bigger than him, and stronger than him, more punching power than him. And just beat the p4p champ twice.
i think winky embarrasses the hell out of taylor. he would win a very lopsided decision. taylor has the power advantage and thats it. hes way to open and wright is more skilled overall then hopkins, and busier then hopkins. wright schools taylor all day.
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completely agreed tyson was better in everyway. his speed, defense, accuracy and power were all better than sam's. peter has good power and i like his confidence and i think he will murder klitschko, but tyson he will never as no one will.
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i would always choose boxing over any music or anything. btw concerts suck, the music doesnt sound right and their voices singing the shit dont sound like they do on the CD'S. i mean id choose to watch fucking klitschko instead of go to any concert and i fucking hate klitschko, but its boxing (well kinda)lol
No, the WBC said when Floyd was at 135 that he wanted to fight Hatton in his 1st fight at 140 and Hatton turned him down and I believe that because Hatton was fighting all bums at the time. Also since the Gatti fight I have read plenty of interviews with Hattons managment and trainers and they all say they want Mayweather but not now. They all say it will be a bigger fight next year and stuff like that so I do believe he has again turned Floyd down. I dont believe Hatton would jump straight from Tszyu to Floyd. He wants a easy fight or 2 in between.
I dont know if I believe him about Zab but I do believe him about Hatton because I have heard Hatton's people say it
Yep i think with zab hes just trying to piss zab off to get isnide his head so when they do fight zab will try to take his head off cause hes so emotional, and mayweather can use that to his advantage, and it might be to where zab will say "fuck it ill fight him for free or fight him at less than 50-50" so that way the fight will happen and floyd can get the money he wants.
with hatton come one people hatton i a fucking pussy, all you need to look at is the fact that he wouldnt even come here to fight the guy who was recognized as the champ (tszyu). he had to have even that fight at his own home. hes also had 39 fights and one good win. hes got more ights than judah and floyd and he has one win to show for it when zab has 9 good wins and floyd has 11 with less fights. hattons people called out maussa right after the harris fight, anyone who considers fighting maussa as a good fight is a joke and deserves to be killed. this guy doesnt even matter harris just needs to get right and take the belt back from him so he can get these fights.
anyone else intrested in him?hes a great young fighter,welterweight
any info on who hes fighting next?
yeah i like him a lot. his next fight is on his dads card sept.17, and then oct.8 on the chico-castillo rematch card. both are TBA. hes got good power, speed, accuracy. could sharpen up the defense hopefully but definitely a future champ.
I gotta give Zab some credit. That is some hard line negotiating.
damn zab did a dman good thing and i completely agree with what hes doing. he gave mayweather 2 wonderful options. fight me for the titles at 50-50, or you can mae more money but no titles on the line. damn he just gave mayweather a FUCK YOU. If judah takes this shit at 4 million when mayweather makes twice than that then he deserves every amount of credit in this world, with the titles or no titles on the line. he knows mayweather will be his toughest opponent ever and to take half of what floyd isshows how much he just wants to fight and beat the best more than hes concerned about the money. which anyone who knows that he only got 100,000 for each spinks fights for (THE UNDSIPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) SHOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED. what undisputed champ would say to a guy who is barely more known than them "ill give you 8 million while i make half that" thats a true fighter for you anyone who doubts zab as a true hardcore fighter needs a relaity check. im not saying floyd isnt or that he ha sless heart than zab cause i dont think he does, but hes definitely more concerned about the money than zab is.
Leonard was too much of a sissy boy to be a real man like Hagler or Hearns or Roberto Duran. He got his ass kicked when he went mano-a-mano.
That's why I didn't like him. He could have been more respected even if he had suffered a couple more losses by going toe to toe.
He ruined alot of potentially good fights by dancing all around the ring the last 30 seconds of every round.
They should have put him and Hagler in a phone booth. Ray would have been hamburger.
Hearns beat his ass the second fight. Two knockdowns and Ray gets a draw. Give me a break
I guess he had to sell more 7-Up.
yeah he was a sissy huh i cant remember was it him that quit in the rematch with duran? oh no thats right he made duran quit. also you people hating leoanrd are idiots. yeah he ducked pryor yet he moved up to super middleweight huh fags? he couldnt punch for shit? he ktfo of donny lalonde at 168. he also had hagler hurt in the 12th round with the unbelievable combos off the ropes. he knocked out hearns. he koed benitez. i mean the list goes on of good fighters that he beat, not to mention how a lot of his knockouts were some of the best kos ever and very devastating. he beat hagler easily. i get so sick of hearing the bullshit that he only fought the last 30 seconds. he just won the round even more at that time. it was either to where hagler was barely winning the round or the round would be even at that point or even to where ray was already ahead, and with that he just insured he would win the rounds even more. also why the fuck couldnt hagler beat such a shitty non pwerful fighter who HAD BEEN RETIRED FOR 5 YEARS AND DIDNT HAVE A TUNE UP? BETTER YET SAY YOU THINK HAGLER BEAT HIM SOMEHOW, WHY DIDNT HE KNOCK HIM OUT DEAD SINCE RAY IS NOTHING, NOT TO MENTION A 5 YEAR LAYOFF. YEAH HE WAS DOWN TO HEARNS IN THE FIRST FIGHT BUT WHO FUCKING CARES HE CAME BACK TO WIN AND KNOCKED HIM OUT. HE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF BENITEZ FOR THE WHOEL FIGHT AND THEN FINALLY GOT THE KO IN THE 15TH. im not taking anything away from any of these other fighters but ray is clearly the best out of all of them because WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT HE BEAT EVERY ONE OF THEM FAIR AND SQUARE. HES THE BEST WELTERWEIGHT EVER UP TP THIS POINT IN HIS SKILL AND HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
Zabkillsspinks,
noone reads your posts you dumb shit because u make all of them long and in one paragraph
Go to school you dumb fuck and learn to write correctly.
btw fuck you
oh im so affended faggot. Here i used a different sentence to start this one, happy now you cocksucker? Oooooh i even used a question mark when asking a question, so go jack off to a well written post fag. for someone who didnt read it you sure did post quick as hell after i posted.
Just because Zab is a "Professional Boxer", doesn't mean he will win every STREET FIGHT!
your right it doesnt automatically mean it, cause theyre are some boxers that wouldnt be good in a street fight. zab is not one of them, growing up in brownsville brooklyn he got in a bunch of street fights with bigger guys, enough to where he thinks hes cheating by taking on guys the same size as him in the ring. if anyone got koed it was definitely buster, theres not anyone that could beat zab in a street fight unless theyre as street as him and bigger, but if theyre bigger and dont have that type experience theyre gonna get destroyed, same with anyone thats his size and doesnt have that experience.
Are you mentally handicapped or something you dumb fuck?
I would like to shove my foot up your brain you fuckfaced fag lil punk ass biznatch..
He's only 28? This is boxing fuckface, each punch that lands on you slows you down...
Btw who said Gatti was a all time great stupid rehab..
BTW Robinson vs Chavez was a fight between to old shot fighters..
Go learn something, come to California and I would kick you in the face with my Nike Cortezhttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/ThaGreatest/cortez.jpg
most fighters start to lose something in their mid to late 30's fag all im saying is taylor was only 28.
never said gatti was great i was just pointing out that an old chavez beat robinson easily when gatti couldnt beat him in 2 tries. you are jusat gay, you have to respond to every one of my posts. yeah this one i responded to yours so fine, but all the others i will make in other topics and youll go right behind me and complain about my writing, or how long it is or some gayness you come up with each time.
I ordered the Mercer/briggs PPV, and after two fights i'm happy, the first fight was reaaly good, this little guy built and fights like Tyson KO'd Andre Eason, Then McCline KO'd his guy in 3 rounds in a good fight, so far a pretty good card.
i take it that your taping this card? if so im definitely going to want the mercer and oneil bell fights. we can trade or whatever i have a ton of fights.
He's only a legend to you guys that overrated him...
Duran would have mopped the floor with him.
chavez was a much more accurate puncher than duran. duran had the speed but he came in with to many wide hooks, a lot like hatton chavez had a good defense and would have gone down the middle against duran for an all out war but a decision win for julio. i dont think hes overrated at all though. i mean im not saying hes the greatest fighter ever but hes definitely one of the best. yes the fights with taylor and whitaker were bs but he destroyed taylor in the rematch to where taylor was still only 28 so dont give me this crap about how he was past his prime. he also made camacho run like the fag he is just like he did against tito. just beat ivan robinson at 42 years old something gatti couldnt do. obviously i could go on and on.
I just hope Vitali knocks the shit out of Rahman worse then Maskaev knocked this big mouth asshole out. I never liked Rahman and always thought he was overhyped. Hopefully Vitali gets rid of his ass.
well if anyone knows about overhyped its definitely a klit fan like yourself. anyway if your confident lets make a bet and i expect some odds since vitali is obviously going to be the favorite big time in the fight. thats a while off though but anyone who wants to bet lets do it. i got rahman and you take vitali the fag (i know you all remember those gay ass pictures with hima nd his brother NAKED). DONT ACT LIKE THEY DONT EXIST YOU ALL LIK A COCKSUCKING FAGGOT.
RAHMAN BY TKO 9
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this is the first time ive actually had to rely on a round-by-round coverage, cause this is the first card i havent got in since got in to boxing besides morales-ayala which was damn stupid of me not to get, i still dont know why i didnt get that but anyway
Bob Fitsimmonz was the first fighter to go from middleweight champion to heavyweight champion in history...
Then Billy Conn fought Joe Louis at 169...and almost managed to beat the greatest HW of all time...
RJJ moved up in weight...instead of being forced to fight ONE champion, he got to choose between 4 of them....
He chose the biggest bum...
If there was always 4 champions in each weight class this record would've been broken over 70 years ago.
that time of boxing realyl doesnt mean a fucking thing since they only let white people fight for the titles. it was completely insane then, so who gives a fuck anout bob fitzsimmons. they didnt even let blacks get a shot at the titles then so it wasnt like everyone was able to box that wanted to or at least for the title. jones did it in a much better division, and ruiz has beat holyfield, oquendo, rahman, and golota, yeah they were horrible fights but he beat them and theyre all good heavyweights but yet jones and toney embarrassed the hell of him and beat him easily.
of course, i just can't beleive how good this card has been, this is crazy
ok good, email me at tysonkillslewis@hotmail.com and ill send you my fight list and we can trade.
thanks im looking forward to seeing the mercer and bell fights also if theyre was any interviews with fighters between the fights let me know who it was caus ei might want those to.
Nah its cool, it didn't offend me. I am on your side and you know that. Thats why I suprised you got a little angry but its no big deal. I am just frusterated with the situation, I want to see Judah/Mayweather still.
alright then thats good. i wouldnt mind at all if they waited actually. thats what i originally wanted to begin with until mayweather talked about zab and then zab went back at him, ever since then ive hoped it would get done for november. its really gonna make mayweather look bad if he doesnt take the offer for 8 million when zab is only getting 4 million. even if its not for the belts who wouldnt consider it for the welterweight championship? also mayweather would have been taking on winky for 9 million for no belts at 54 but would anyone have said its not for undisputed at 154? i would actually prefer them to just run through everyone else first and then 2-3 years from now meet up and make even more money for fighting one another. imagine if judah and floyd beat hatton, cotto, dlh, tszyu, mosley, margarito, mitchell, mayorga, vargas, forrest, wright, harris, etc... and they beat them all impressively imagine how great a promotion would be between these 2 then.
Where you downloading it from by the way?
hey juyjuy so who do you like better benn or eubank? ive just seen two of eubanks fights and that was against benn. ive seen like 40 fights of benn. eubank seems to be the more skilled fighter overall and benn obviouslt the more aggressive and stronger fighter as far as punching power. i like them both i love eubanks arrogance out of the ring. i just wondered who you liked better since you obviously love both so much.
Hey Zabkills, after all I did for you since your return your angry at me for one comment. You know I support you as a poster. C'mon man, I am just a little annoyed with them...thats all.
no im not really mad or anything i just get annoyed when people say stuff they obviously won stick to. its similar to how people bitch about ppv's. after each one they say "im never ordering a ppv again" "its a waste" and all kinds of bullshit. and all the time up until the ppv show they say "fuck no im not ordering it" then theyre in here talking the next day cause they ordered it. no harm meant to yuo with my previous post your one of the only ones i actually do like in here, i mean your 4 fav fighters are tyson jones judah and mayweather i dont know what order but theyre my top 4 also so how can i hate on someone that likes all them? i cant. i just dont like to hear boxing fans say stuff like "i dont even want to see the fight anymore" and stuff like that. i always want to see the fights. anyway sorry if that upset you i didnt mean to affend you or anything.