According to boxingtalk:
Exclusive Interview: Zab Judah
By G. Leon
"Me and Don King just signed, let's see what Floyd's excuse is now!"
August 26, 2005 - GL: Floyd Mayweather Jr called me last night to tell me that you turned down $4M or 40 times what you made in the Cory Spinks rematch to fight him on PPV this November. What's the deal Superman? "I think Floyd is a a hyprocrite because all he has to do is call his manager (Al Haymon) and ask him to look on his desk. I'm here with Don King right now and the deal just got signed, sealed and delivered on our end. We're waiting to see what his response is now. Instead of getting on the phone to grandstand with the public through Boxingtalk, he should have known better. He should have known that there's nobody in America that I'm scared of. He already knows he's out of his league right now."
I didn't read any of the comments made on this thread yet, I just read the original post so don't jump on me if I say something that was said already.
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Alright....the belts are meaningless!
If it plays out like this and Zab loses and Floyd moves back down to compete at 140lbs. doesn't Margarito become the man in the division?
Theirs still Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Tsyzu, Cotto, but I would agree, Margarito would be on top followed by Castillo and Corrales, What do others think?
I don't think so. PBF will beat Margarito in his sleep. Why would PBF move up for Margarito, no one knows Margarito, that fight will not sell & it will not be a PPV fight. Dude, are you drunk or something.
Everyone who has seen him knows he has a style similar to JL Castillo except he is bigger, more powerful, and even more relentless. You act like mayweather is the biggest PPV seller of all time all of a sudden, he's not he's headlined one PPV card. Watch a couple of margarito fights and you'll see how exciting a fighter he is and how good a fight he would make against mayweather.
I didn't read any of the comments made on this thread yet, I just read the original post so don't jump on me if I say something that was said already.
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Alright....the belts are meaningless!
If it plays out like this and Zab loses and Floyd moves back down to compete at 140lbs. doesn't Margarito become the man in the division?
I'd rather see either of these two guys get in their with my boy antonio margarito, he'll fight cheap and i really believe he has the chance to be great, seeing how he ws able to hurt and brawl with 170 pound daniel santos makes me think these guys can't stop him. I also want to see how he does when he faces the very top tier.
Like Tha Greatest_N.K said, Floyd is big time ducking Margarito,
Judahs the fucking man now!
I got hella respect for him now!
I have too.
Someone who takes a fight for a 70-30 purse which i belive it is? against who many believe to be the best pound for pound in the world right now is a really good deal IMO. The only thing that Mayweather could use as an excuse is the belts issue, but look at the things he has demanded. He cant have it all his way.
Btw do people think that Mayweather has the power to go up and really hurt anyone. I dont. His power is really looked down upon and when he moves up he will punch a bit harder. But hes not a natural puncher. He is going to have to perform to get a result out of this, thats how i see it.
The ball is in Mayweather's yard now.
I agree.
When making deals, there has to be a compromise. According to Superman, Floyd wanted more of the money. Now you cant have more money and the titles and the venue nd the weight all down to one person. I dont think it is unreasonable to take away the titles if Mayweather is simply trying to outprice the fight. Which he obviously is by the sound of this.
Its up to Mayweather now, he has to take the double money or turn it down. But why would you turn down double money. Scared?
I'd rather see either of these two guys get in their with my boy antonio margarito, he'll fight cheap and i really believe he has the chance to be great, seeing how he ws able to hurt and brawl with 170 pound daniel santos makes me think these guys can't stop him. I also want to see how he does when he faces the very top tier.
Don't count on it
Floyd is ducking Margarito BIG TIME!
I'd rather see either of these two guys get in their with my boy antonio margarito, he'll fight cheap and i really believe he has the chance to be great, seeing how he ws able to hurt and brawl with 170 pound daniel santos makes me think these guys can't stop him. I also want to see how he does when he faces the very top tier.
Hey Bozo. Who do you think is going to win this fight if it takes place? And in what fashion?
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Its understandable that these guys want to fight eachother for big money and create a buzz for this fight.
The bottom line is that they dont want to fight Margarito, hes too tought for them. Way too much risk, not enough money.
I totally agree but 8 million talks....Everyone knows Zab is champ at 147 and if Floyd defeats him Zab would still have the belts but Floyd would be the recognized champ...Look at the Lt. Heavy division.
I would strip the belts from Zab and have the #1 and #2 contenders fight for the belt. If Zab doesn't respect the belts, kick him to the kerb. If Zab wins or loses at 148, Zab is NOT the 147 champ.
Anyway, I think it's all a negotiating tactic for Zab to get a bigger cut. If this fight goes ahead at 148, it's a joke. Don't misunderstand, it's still a great fight at any weight, but boxing just doesn't need this BS. It's a farce.
If the fight goes on at 148 lbs, as far as I am concerned, Zab has vacated the belts and moved up to the 154 lb division. This is ridiculous.
If the belts mean nothing, then boxing is really going into the toilet.
I don't see much incentive for PBF to take this fight at 148. He isn't the real champion at 140 lbs., Hatton is, and he won't be at 147 or 154 after a fight with Zab at 148. Of course it's about the money, but guys with huge egos also want a legacy. I'm not in the head of PBF, but skipping around weight divisions and not being champion in them is pointless.
I totally agree but 8 million talks....Everyone knows Zab is champ at 147 and if Floyd defeats him Zab would still have the belts but Floyd would be the recognized champ...Look at the Lt. Heavy division.
If the fight goes on at 148 lbs, as far as I am concerned, Zab has vacated the belts and moved up to the 154 lb division. This is ridiculous.
If the belts mean nothing, then boxing is really going into the toilet.
I don't see much incentive for PBF to take this fight at 148. He isn't the real champion at 140 lbs., Hatton is, and he won't be at 147 or 154 after a fight with Zab at 148. Of course it's about the money, but guys with huge egos also want a legacy. I'm not in the head of PBF, but skipping around weight divisions and not being champion in them is pointless.
Zabkillsspinks,
noone reads your posts you dumb shit because u make all of them long and in one paragraph
Go to school you dumb fuck and learn to write correctly.
btw fuck you
oh im so affended faggot. Here i used a different sentence to start this one, happy now you cocksucker? Oooooh i even used a question mark when asking a question, so go jack off to a well written post fag. for someone who didnt read it you sure did post quick as hell after i posted.
Zabkillsspinks,
noone reads your posts you dumb shit because u make all of them long and in one paragraph
Go to school you dumb fuck and learn to write correctly.
btw fuck you
damn zab did a dman good thing and i completely agree with what hes doing. he gave mayweather 2 wonderful options. fight me for the titles at 50-50, or you can mae more money but no titles on the line. damn he just gave mayweather a FUCK YOU. If judah takes this shit at 4 million when mayweather makes twice than that then he deserves every amount of credit in this world, with the titles or no titles on the line. he knows mayweather will be his toughest opponent ever and to take half of what floyd isshows how much he just wants to fight and beat the best more than hes concerned about the money. which anyone who knows that he only got 100,000 for each spinks fights for (THE UNDSIPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) SHOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED. what undisputed champ would say to a guy who is barely more known than them "ill give you 8 million while i make half that" thats a true fighter for you anyone who doubts zab as a true hardcore fighter needs a relaity check. im not saying floyd isnt or that he ha sless heart than zab cause i dont think he does, but hes definitely more concerned about the money than zab is.
meh.
saying tyson is brooklyns finest is like putting a silk hat on a pig.
I gotta give Zab some credit. That is some hard line negotiating.
damn zab did a dman good thing and i completely agree with what hes doing. he gave mayweather 2 wonderful options. fight me for the titles at 50-50, or you can mae more money but no titles on the line. damn he just gave mayweather a FUCK YOU. If judah takes this shit at 4 million when mayweather makes twice than that then he deserves every amount of credit in this world, with the titles or no titles on the line. he knows mayweather will be his toughest opponent ever and to take half of what floyd isshows how much he just wants to fight and beat the best more than hes concerned about the money. which anyone who knows that he only got 100,000 for each spinks fights for (THE UNDSIPUTED WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP) SHOULDNT BE TO SURPRISED. what undisputed champ would say to a guy who is barely more known than them "ill give you 8 million while i make half that" thats a true fighter for you anyone who doubts zab as a true hardcore fighter needs a relaity check. im not saying floyd isnt or that he ha sless heart than zab cause i dont think he does, but hes definitely more concerned about the money than zab is.
About damn time this thing get signed from Zabs end....I cant wait...
I still think Zab is acting like an insecure little school girl by saying "He wants more money we give him more but we want it at 148 and no titles" I think that is Zabs way after he gets clowned by Floyd Mayweather he can still keep his namesake and get paid because of his "Undisputed Welterweight" moniker and he can go to bed each night dreaming of a fight with Oscar De la hoya...Even though Mayweather/Oscar sounds good the only guy Zab should be fighting is Margarito.