he talks about not disrespecting? My god he sure looks like an idiot now with the way he disresepected Pac with baseless drug accusations and drug testing demands based on these disrespectful accusations.
moreso than understanding english is to try to speak english.
If he was a better speaker he woulda answered. "no, I will not take a test 1 hour before the fight, 5 days before the fight, or 14 days before the fight. All those are in my opinion too close for my persoanl comfort.
let me put it this way.
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Q:will you eat a pile of rat turd?
A: no, that's too much?
Q:okay, how about about a teaspoon?
A:no, that's too much
but wait, you just contradicted yourself, you say a pile was too much, but now you're saying even a teaspoon is too much? you ****en liar.
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you get it?
It's like Salem witch trials. Complete irrational nonsense. These are not even legitimate allegations in the usual sense... example - X person claims he saw Manny injecting drugs. That's an allegation you can be concerned about and would be valid and reasonable impetus for an out of the ordinary drug testing.
But for someone to just make a claim that someone else is doing drugs, not because of something he heard or saw.. but just because he thinks so? For that to be taken seriously ... it's just an opinion, not even a reasonable allegation... just plain ridiculous.
These jealous ass bitches can't stand the fact that a small Filipino man is above all of them.
Exactly. It's pretty racist. They don't think an Asian guy can be a boxing elite. Reminds me of the scene in the movie Stand and Deliver. They couldn't believe a bunch of Hispanic kids could ace the math ap tests so they made them take it over again.
Truth is, Pac is small, maybe below average height for an Asian, and fills out his muscles just like any asian would when working out like that(lean and ripped). I see it all the time in the gym.
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So, you're tell me that Mayweather should not ask for anything and abide to everything Manny says and if he doesn't, he ducking? That's so dumb!
What SR should do is the right thing to do. Apologize for bringing up these baseless allegations and leave team Mayweather. I swear, I don't think JR would ever have done the pu$$y sheet that his pops is doing. I bet JR is fuming at how his pops effed it all up.
If SR doesn’t apologize, Money should kick his dad to the curb and apologize on his behalf. End of story and the fight happens how it should have happened in the first place.
It's like two kids fighting in a playground and then one of the kids dad rushing in to punk the other kid. It's a beotch move and completely undermines his son's dignity. I really think May Jr. is fuming over the mess his old man created, he must really be embarrassed. Like I say, kick the old man to the curb and do the fight like it shoulda been done in the first place.
nope, Manny should not have to be subjected to unfair or unusual demands based off of zero evidence. He's as innocent as innocent can be, he shouldn't have to do crap. He's worked his way to the top and does not deserve this type of disrespect.
and he said he would take urine tests anytime they wanted.. so how is that hiding something?
these pac critics are coming off as complete irrational nuttjobs.
I hope it doesn't happen. Before this fiasco, either fighter, win or lose, leaves the fight with dignity. Now I dunno. If Pac loses, he not only had his character assassinated, but got humiliated in the ring..injury to insult... If May loses, history will portray this as "good triumphs over evil".. May don't desever that... it's just all bitter now.
Money would rather assassinate Pac's character with false allegations than fight him in the ring. Remember, it was Team May that started this whole fiasco.
no it's quite relevant to the topic. It's pointing out how irrational the accusations and demands are. Your comment back, on the other hand, does nothing to counter the main argument of the TS.
The passing NSAC tests argument won't hold up if Shane Mosley's name is brought up. Blood isn't tested for PEDs. Sorry guys.
Manny has an uphill battle to fight in court.
Actually, it won't be.
This case isn't going to be about Manny having to prove he's not on drugs. It's not about Manny. It's about May SR and if he is indeed guilty about the 2 points presented in the original post.
actually they do have a solid case. There has been no reason for the accusation..no locker room talk, rumors, or witnesses. He's passed all drug tests, and has a perfect history.
It's pretty much like accusing the local catholic priest of molestation just because you think he looks dodgy. You can go ahead and say it's not slander because there's no way to know for sure if the priest never molested a child because , who knows what he's doing on his off hours? He may have molested a kid.. we can't say with 100% certainly that he hasn't touched Johnny in that special place can we? Meanwhile because of these slanders the parish sees an 80% decline in patronage based on pure BS.
Also they are doing it with the intent to damage the credibility.. the whole Olympic drug testing demand is a result of a damage to his credibility. The fact that they’re using the accusation as a bargaining tool in the fight proves it.. because this type of leverage depends upon Manny’s credibility being put into question.
Mayweather SR is going to jail.. easy case.
If you have nothing to hide, then take a test. Really, he should stop crying and take a test.
The point is, the damage to his reputation has already been done. It no longer matters if he takes the test or not.
because Sr. would have no way of knowing with absolute certainty one way or the other if Pac is or was ever taking steroids.
Exactly!! Bingo!! Mayweather has no basis fo his accusation!!! He just made it up..and blurted it out to millions of people over and over again.. and is using it as a bargaining chip in negotiations...
but Marquez was a fast counterpuncher with aggression.. watch the highlights of the Marquez vs Pac fights. I don't see May having the intensity and speed that Marquez displayed.
Yes Floyd's style is wrong for PAc, but Pac still beat Marquez who's style was wrong for Pac. Yes Floyd is bigger and more accurate, but not as fast or as agressive at 147 as Marquez was against pac.. Now pac is bigger and just about the same speed, and not to mention more powerful. So what this means is that this is looking to be an epic fight that will be close.
I"m sorry he looks like molases compared to pac. Is that really as quick as may can get or is he just being cautious. If that's May's best speed then Pac has a better chance than I initially thought.
edit.. crap I'm new here, was trying to quote the May Zab clip.
if Pac's ear is really ruptured then I don't think he'll have a chance. He's all about speed and akward balance..and a shot ear will **** over your sense of balance. If Pac really isn't injured then Pac will win if Pac is faster and intense. May looked slower in some of his later fights.. nowhere near as fast as the JMM that was able to counter Pacs speed. IF May still has good speed, then May wins.
Its all good homie, I respect your opinion and you might prove me wrong that night
likewise, I seriously keep going back and forth on whose going to win, currently I'm leaning Pac but not by far, it def can change once we start seeing what the Mayweather training camp looks like. He's got some rust he needs to shake off.
My man, I think you are getting mixed up. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. Every fight is different. The JMM-Pac fight is action packed so it gives you the impression that those guys are faster while Floyd-Zab was more of a techniqal chess match where both guys were being smart with there moves. That dont make the other guys faster. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. One fight was more action packed. Thats all. Again, even a die hard Floyd hater/JMM lover knows that JMM's speed is nothing compared to Floyd's and that Zab & Pac are on par with a ton of people who will think Zab is faster
Well if you think a 33 year old 147 lb Mayweather that's only fought once in two years is faster than JMM when he battled pac that's fine. But reaction speed is what I'm talking about. You need reaction speed to counter pac..
I don't think the guy that fought here:
can counter this guy here, especially in the later rounds when May slows down.. which is why many people are saying Manny takes May in the later rounds.
and damn look how huge mayweather looks.. he was def in the mid 150s.
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Floyd looked huge for 2 reasons. 1 is because he was fighting a smaller guy and 2 is because he's always been super small so any weight would make him look alot bigger. Manny Steward & Nacho both said they thought Floyd was 152 in that fight. Are you seriously talking about reaction & reflexes with Floyd? No one in boxing is nearly as fast as him with that stuff. Keep thinking that he's not quick enough to counter Pac. Also, stop saying that Floyd slowed down in the Zab fight. He didnt. He broke Zab down and slowly walked him down. He was going to be cautious because he didnt want Zab to catch him with some speedy Southpaw BS so he took his time. He didnt slow, he never does.
No one thinks Pac will wear him down late. Most think Pac better stop him early because Floyd is too smart and once he figures Pac out after 4 rounds then Pac wont win another so he better stop Floyd early or hurt Floyd so bad that he's dazed for a few rounds. Even if Pac is up 3-0 or 3-1 while landing some hard blows, I bet anything he still wont win another round and thats the best case scenerio for Pac. Floyd could be on his game from the jump and then it will be a total whitewash
hey, I'm posting vids to gauge speed, timing, and to judge the effects of weight. In other words trying to come up with an objective optinion. March people will be posting vids of the final deal so we shall see.
Floyd isn't as fast as the jmm that countered Pac. I haven't seen floyd move that fast at the heavier weights in a long while.. and Pac hasn't slowed down much at all.. Someone show me a clip of a WW Mayweather moving as fast as JMM did against pac. The May vs ZAB fight was like watching the pac vs jmm fight in slow motion.
I think he goes back into retirement. It's clear why he came back, he ain't ducking no way no how... But to play along, a catchweight with Amir Kahn.. lol that would be great to see him wipe the tarp with the British expat.
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oops you said would Manny fight.. for some reason I thought you asked who would Floyd fight. I think Mosely or JMM.
I have the fights on tape but come on man. JMM is faster than Floyd even P4P now? JMM-PAC has more speed than Floyd-Zab? NO. The main thing though is that the slowest version of Floyd is 10x faster than the fastest version of JMM. Its not even close
yeah, wishful thinking
only round 5 and already slowing down:
Marquez keeping the speed and intensity til the end..
Manny won or it was even, seriously. This "effective aggression" crap is just an all too convenient way of dismissing any evidence that goes counter to one's desired biased result. If a slow mo replay proves the judges decision, well then it proves it. Time to move on.