Its all good homie, I respect your opinion and you might prove me wrong that night
likewise, I seriously keep going back and forth on whose going to win, currently I'm leaning Pac but not by far, it def can change once we start seeing what the Mayweather training camp looks like. He's got some rust he needs to shake off.
hey, I'm posting vids to gauge speed, timing, and to judge the effects of weight. In other words trying to come up with an objective optinion. March people will be posting vids of the final deal so we shall see.
Its all good homie, I respect your opinion and you might prove me wrong that night
Well if you think a 33 year old 147 lb Mayweather that's only fought once in two years is faster than JMM when he battled pac that's fine. But reaction speed is what I'm talking about. You need reaction speed to counter pac..
I don't think the guy that fought here:
can counter this guy here, especially in the later rounds when May slows down.. which is why many people are saying Manny takes May in the later rounds.
and damn look how huge mayweather looks.. he was def in the mid 150s.
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floyd was about 160 lbs in that fight.
Floyd looked huge for 2 reasons. 1 is because he was fighting a smaller guy and 2 is because he's always been super small so any weight would make him look alot bigger. Manny Steward & Nacho both said they thought Floyd was 152 in that fight. Are you seriously talking about reaction & reflexes with Floyd? No one in boxing is nearly as fast as him with that stuff. Keep thinking that he's not quick enough to counter Pac. Also, stop saying that Floyd slowed down in the Zab fight. He didnt. He broke Zab down and slowly walked him down. He was going to be cautious because he didnt want Zab to catch him with some speedy Southpaw BS so he took his time. He didnt slow, he never does.
No one thinks Pac will wear him down late. Most think Pac better stop him early because Floyd is too smart and once he figures Pac out after 4 rounds then Pac wont win another so he better stop Floyd early or hurt Floyd so bad that he's dazed for a few rounds. Even if Pac is up 3-0 or 3-1 while landing some hard blows, I bet anything he still wont win another round and thats the best case scenerio for Pac. Floyd could be on his game from the jump and then it will be a total whitewash
hey, I'm posting vids to gauge speed, timing, and to judge the effects of weight. In other words trying to come up with an objective optinion. March people will be posting vids of the final deal so we shall see.
Well if you think a 33 year old 147 lb Mayweather that's only fought once in two years is faster than JMM when he battled pac that's fine. But reaction speed is what I'm talking about. You need reaction speed to counter pac..
I don't think the guy that fought here:
can counter this guy here, especially in the later rounds when May slows down.. which is why many people are saying Manny takes May in the later rounds.
and damn look how huge mayweather looks.. he was def in the mid 150s.
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Floyd looked huge for 2 reasons. 1 is because he was fighting a smaller guy and 2 is because he's always been super small so any weight would make him look alot bigger. Manny Steward & Nacho both said they thought Floyd was 152 in that fight. Are you seriously talking about reaction & reflexes with Floyd? No one in boxing is nearly as fast as him with that stuff. Keep thinking that he's not quick enough to counter Pac. Also, stop saying that Floyd slowed down in the Zab fight. He didnt. He broke Zab down and slowly walked him down. He was going to be cautious because he didnt want Zab to catch him with some speedy Southpaw BS so he took his time. He didnt slow, he never does.
No one thinks Pac will wear him down late. Most think Pac better stop him early because Floyd is too smart and once he figures Pac out after 4 rounds then Pac wont win another so he better stop Floyd early or hurt Floyd so bad that he's dazed for a few rounds. Even if Pac is up 3-0 or 3-1 while landing some hard blows, I bet anything he still wont win another round and thats the best case scenerio for Pac. Floyd could be on his game from the jump and then it will be a total whitewash
My man, I think you are getting mixed up. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. Every fight is different. The JMM-Pac fight is action packed so it gives you the impression that those guys are faster while Floyd-Zab was more of a techniqal chess match where both guys were being smart with there moves. That dont make the other guys faster. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. One fight was more action packed. Thats all. Again, even a die hard Floyd hater/JMM lover knows that JMM's speed is nothing compared to Floyd's and that Zab & Pac are on par with a ton of people who will think Zab is faster
Well if you think a 33 year old 147 lb Mayweather that's only fought once in two years is faster than JMM when he battled pac that's fine. But reaction speed is what I'm talking about. You need reaction speed to counter pac..
I don't think the guy that fought here:
can counter this guy here, especially in the later rounds when May slows down.. which is why many people are saying Manny takes May in the later rounds.
and damn look how huge mayweather looks.. he was def in the mid 150s.
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yeah, wishful thinking
only round 5 and already slowing down:
Marquez keeping the speed and intensity til the end..
My man, I think you are getting mixed up. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. Every fight is different. The JMM-Pac fight is action packed so it gives you the impression that those guys are faster while Floyd-Zab was more of a techniqal chess match where both guys were being smart with there moves. That dont make the other guys faster. You are getting speed mixed up with the fight tempo. One fight was more action packed. Thats all. Again, even a die hard Floyd hater/JMM lover knows that JMM's speed is nothing compared to Floyd's and that Zab & Pac are on par with a ton of people who will think Zab is faster
I have the fights on tape but come on man. JMM is faster than Floyd even P4P now? JMM-PAC has more speed than Floyd-Zab? NO. The main thing though is that the slowest version of Floyd is 10x faster than the fastest version of JMM. Its not even close
yeah, wishful thinking
only round 5 and already slowing down:
Marquez keeping the speed and intensity til the end..
You and the rest can talk all you want now but the fact is that no one will remember anything that happened before if Floyd shows up in this fight and I think he will. Meaning, I think you are going to see an exciting Floyd that lets his hands go. His dad brought back the jab last fight and even though his dad is more defensive than Roger, even he was saying after the JMM fight that Floyd didnt let his hands go because he was rusty. That tells you that his dad is going to tell him to let his hands go more this time. I think people are going to be shocked. I think he's going to fight like this was SFW all over again which will make him look crazy good since now his defense and mind is in his prime. This is going to be a Chico like performance when everyone was split on the fight and Floyd came away looking like a GOD.
wishful thinking! That floyd is gone forever. We will see the economical pbf from here on out. Sad thing about it is that no fighter I see today can make him come out of that shell and entertain like he is able to do. He will do just enuff to get the W.
Lets just wish for pacq to be good enuff to make him fight a little bit. And that I highly doubt.
have you even watched the jmm pac fight? watch it, then watch the jmm vs may fight. You have to be blind not to see the speed difference.
I have the fights on tape but come on man. JMM is faster than Floyd even P4P now? JMM-PAC has more speed than Floyd-Zab? NO. The main thing though is that the slowest version of Floyd is 10x faster than the fastest version of JMM. Its not even close
Floyd isn't as fast as the jmm that countered Pac. I haven't seen floyd move that fast at the heavier weights in a long while.. and Pac hasn't slowed down much at all.. Someone show me a clip of a WW Mayweather moving as fast as JMM did against pac. The May vs ZAB fight was like watching the pac vs jmm fight in slow motion.
No offence but I think that is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said on these forums. No one in the world would agree with you on that
Floyd isn't as fast as the jmm that countered Pac. I haven't seen floyd move that fast at the heavier weights in a long while.. and Pac hasn't slowed down much at all.. Someone show me a clip of a WW Mayweather moving as fast as JMM did against pac. The May vs ZAB fight was like watching the pac vs jmm fight in slow motion.
thatll be the worst mistake floyd can make, do you think that floyd sr and jr is that stupid? that can only benefit pacquiao. see what happned to cotto? in rnds 2-4? floyd prolly do what cotto did in 9th-12th rds. potshots darting in and out but still mannys left can shocked everyone when he connects flush to floyds face.
Stop talking like Floyd is Cotto. He can let his hands go and still have good D and can get out when Pac throws. One doesnt have anythng to do with the other. He can fight him just like JMM fought him except he's 10x better
You and the rest can talk all you want now but the fact is that no one will remember anything that happened before if Floyd shows up in this fight and I think he will. Meaning, I think you are going to see an exciting Floyd that lets his hands go. His dad brought back the jab last fight and even though his dad is more defensive than Roger, even he was saying after the JMM fight that Floyd didnt let his hands go because he was rusty. That tells you that his dad is going to tell him to let his hands go more this time. I think people are going to be shocked. I think he's going to fight like this was SFW all over again which will make him look crazy good since now his defense and mind is in his prime. This is going to be a Chico like performance when everyone was split on the fight and Floyd came away looking like a GOD.
thatll be the worst mistake floyd can make, do you think that floyd sr and jr is that stupid? that can only benefit pacquiao. see what happned to cotto? in rnds 2-4? floyd prolly do what cotto did in 9th-12th rds. potshots darting in and out but still mannys left can shocked everyone when he connects flush to floyds face.
More than likely, it will just say whatever movie he's making. The filipino version of the Matrix or some shit.
This fight will be the Filipino version of Passion of the Christ.
Buhleed dat
Ah, yes. The Hagler approach to selling a fight.
During Pac-Mayweather's build up, Manny should attend all the meeting wearing a bandanna with "WAR" written across the front.
More than likely, it will just say whatever movie he's making. The filipino version of the Matrix or some shit.
Ah, yes. The Hagler approach to selling a fight.
During Pac-Mayweather's build up, Manny should attend all the meeting wearing a bandanna with "WAR" written across the front.
Mayweather vs Pacquiao is the fight we will be telling our grand kids about. Lets enjoy this boxing fans. win lose or draw we will be watching history.
You and the rest can talk all you want now but the fact is that no one will remember anything that happened before if Floyd shows up in this fight and I think he will. Meaning, I think you are going to see an exciting Floyd that lets his hands go. His dad brought back the jab last fight and even though his dad is more defensive than Roger, even he was saying after the JMM fight that Floyd didnt let his hands go because he was rusty. That tells you that his dad is going to tell him to let his hands go more this time. I think people are going to be shocked. I think he's going to fight like this was SFW all over again which will make him look crazy good since now his defense and mind is in his prime. This is going to be a Chico like performance when everyone was split on the fight and Floyd came away looking like a GOD.
No disrespect to you, but this was said before the Baldomir fight, before the DLH fight, before the Hatton fight (was potshotting until he hurt Hatton) and before the Marquez fight.
I got Floyd winning the fight, but I don't see how he would take risks knowing how dangerous Manny would be. The only way to make Manny tentative and cap his offense is to make him cautious by striking methodically. If Floyd becomes more offensive, thats just Manny's fight. Floyd doesnt like to get hit.
Floyd via UD in a another fight billed as a barn burner which ultimately failed to satisfy the viewing audience.
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