I agree with all the posts here that Floyd got what he deserved. You put your glove in your opponents face and rub across his eyes, which can cause serious and irreparable retinal damage, what do you expect him to do? Floyd is a weasel that needs to be eradicated from the sport of boxing. I hope the fans learn from this bogus spectacle and refrain from buying any further ppv cards or even worse, fight tickets showcasing Floyd's ownership of the boxing establishment.
Santa Cruz may be ducking the best competition out there right now but honestly, who wants to see anybody decent fight Rigondeaux? Yes, I agree he has superb technical skills and excellent defensive abilities but he's boring as hell. Boxing is supposed to be an exciting sport, not bore you to sleep with constant evasive movements and backpedaling. Yes this is a skill and it is all about hitting and not getting hit but Rigondeaux's style is an extreme example of that. His last fight against Kokietgym was a joke and doesn't prove he can be exciting against the best competition. A headbutt followed by a cheap shot doesn't prove anything. Kokietgym should have protected himself at all times but Rigondeaux won't get the opportunity to do that against better opponents. He has never knocked out an elite level opponent. Furthermore, he has the personality of a rock and always looks like a sourpuss. That lack of charisma won't get him far with U.S. audiences. Boxers like Broner may be annoying a-holes but at least they are amusing at times. People used to complain that Ali was too evasive but he also had true knockout power and a larger than life personality. Rigondeaux has evasiveness and that's it.
Self confidence is one thing but I think Groves is somewhat delusional if he thinks he's still in the mix for a world title shot. I agree completely with Dirrell. His last two fights were KO losses. He has a long way to go for a legitimate title shot.
Honestly, can we just skip the rematch?? the 1st fight was bad enough
I agree that the first fight was a complete dud but it's not as if Ward's fights are all that action packed or memorable.
The guy has incredibly skill and boxing ability but offensively, he's not exactly fan friendly.
Fury claims Joshua is not ready to take on a "champion" in Martin because he is too inexperienced with only 15 pro fights and has no jab or skills. I'm just wondering what makes Martin so legit? He was basically given the IBF title which was stripped from Fury after he won by default when Glazkov knocked himself out. Before that fight, nobody even knew who Martin was. He is still an unknown quantity and completely untested.
Glazkov didn't deserve a title shot and neither did Martin. Glazkov was gifted decisions to go on to take what looked like a dive against Martin and Martin beat a bunch of nobodies to win a world title by showing up. Martin unexpectedly wanted to prove himself and deserves a lot of credit for going to the UK to face Joshua but he must know until he beats someone decent, he is the definition of a paper champ.
Given the way in which Martin obtained the IBF title, it is completely meaningless. Nevertheless, that doesn't stop the fight with Joshua, being between two unbeaten contenders, from being a big move in both their careers and undoubtedly a fan friendly fire fight.
Spot on m8t! you see Deontay is a role model citizen of the United States of America not some convicted scourge of society. Then we can talk about how he robbed the Italians of a god medal then he started to do the very same drugs he sold to cheat his way to victories in his professional career and finally he met up with one of the biggest crooks in all of boxing none other than Eddie Hearns -- whos been buying him world titles along with the help of that other fraud Gypsy Queen....sickening when you put it all into perspective....nothing like good old American spirt of HARD WORK DEDICATION....staying prayed up and living a clean life. U.S.A!!!
Are you really that ignorant or are you just naive?? There have been loads of US boxers who were less than savory individuals outside of the ring yet they were still great fighters with successful careers, holding a legitimate place in boxing history. Violent crime, drug use, spousal abuse and corruption have always been a part of pro boxing. Many of the most memorable fighters of all time came from impoverished, underprivileged crime riddled backgrounds and thus became a product of their environment, knowing nothing but having to fight for a living. Such fighters as Jack Johnson, Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson, Johnny Tapia, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Bernard Hopkins, Diego Corrales, and Edwin Valero fit this description. I use American fighters as an example to prove that your description of clean-cut, angelic role models coming out of the U.S. exclusively is preposterous.
The next U.S. president is a narcissistic, hateful, childish, dishonest, deplorable human being so good luck with that.
I agree, I noticed all of his fans on this board are effeminate and tend to like Golovkin and MMA...They are worse than animals.
What do you prefer, feather-fisted runners who are arrogant and ****y outside the ring and produce nothing even remotely exciting inside the ring? Since you seem to be so much against boxers with legitimate power who demolish their opponents I would suggest you find another sport with limited physical contact.
So let me get this straight, people who like powerful punchers who are respectful and grounded outside the ring and vicious and devastating inside the ring are effeminate? You don't seem to understand what the overall appeal of boxing is and what makes it exciting and memorable.
Anyone fighting this guy needs to knock him out.
The ref and judges are going to do everything to keep him winning.
Yeah because he's needed the refs and judges so far, right? What happens when he KOs legitimate contenders? Considering he started boxing at 18 and thus had a limited amateur career, his pro career is progressing at an incredible pace. Just because there's hype surrounding him doesn't mean he's overrated. The hype is completely justified. It amazes me how many people are critical of Joshua when he is the most exciting heavyweight to come around in years.
Even the numbskull who wrote this article makes a feeble and ill informed attempt at deflating the significance of his KO victories so far because they aren't against the best heavyweights in the world. If he or anyone else who criticizes Joshua for the level of competition he as faced in his career knew anything about boxing, they would know that you don't immediately step up a fighter with very limited amateur experience to the top level just because he's progressing quickly and demolishing his competition to date. He has shown all the potential in the world, is commanding huge audiences and interest worldwide and as long as there's room to grow, there's no need to jump the gun.
Joshua is facing Klitschko next which is a huge step up in class and a calculated risk to say the least. Very few heavyweights would go near someone like Klitschko with so few fights under their belt and even fewer would have a chance of winning. It's only because Joshua has looked so good so far and there's been so much buzz about him that he is expected to fight a former undisputed world champion and beat him in style.
Galahad has no one to blame but himself if there were banned substances found in his system. His story sounds like a desperate concoction that is not even remotely believable. If Joshua is juicing then so is Vlad but nobody seems to care about that. Plus, stringent drug testing is not practiced in Germany where Vlad regularly fights, not to mention the plethora of other problems with boxing in Germany. At least the UK boxers are occasionally tested without prior knowledge of when the test is going to occur. If Joshua is juiced up, he will be exposed sooner or later. If the UK anti-doping panel has any suspicion that Joshua is taking PEDs based on his physique, all they have to do is test him.
USADA is supposed to be responsible for testing pro boxers in the US but I really doubt they're on the level or treat all fighters equally. I don't care what anyone says, there's no way Mayweather wasn't jacked up on something for the fight with Pacquiao. It doesn't in any way justify Pacquiao's performance, excuses and injury dilemma which were equally sad and ridiculous but Floyd looked WAY bigger than Pacquiao and not just because he is naturally bigger. He was definitely hopped up on goofballs. Mayweather had USADA under his thumb, there's little doubt about that. Whenever Mayweather says he finds ways to win and will do anything he needs to do to win, such statements should be taken literally. It's not hard to read between the lines.
I like Joshua, he's nice kid but I honestly don't think he is or will be better than Lennox Lewis. Lewis was a more complete fighter and not so robotic and stiff like Joshua. A prime Lewis vs a prime Joshua, Lennox in 4 or 5 rounds.
Maybe not but if you look back at Lewis' career, he always showed huge potential but also made a lot of mistakes early on and arguably fought weaker competition than Joshua at 19 pro fights in. Of course he developed well and made the right adjustments along the way to become easily one of the best HWs of his era but don't forget he was KO'd by Oliver McCall in his 26th pro bout and later by Rahman. Lewis learned from the McCall fight and showed his mental strength and composure by going on to greatness. Unfortunately for McCall, he suffered what appeared to be a nervous breakdown in the rematch and never reached his own potential.
He beat he's own version of Wlad in Holmes. Holmes may not have been so imposing but had lost two close ones to an awkward guy. Maybe a 41 year old Wlad was better than a 38 year old Holmes. But since he came back many years later, still beat Mercer and extended Holyfield, Holmes was still good. Factor in that Tyson wiped him out, barely taking a shot unlike Joshua.
I know what you're saying but I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. Holmes was not in the shape, nor did he have the power, certainly at that point in his career, to KO the best rising HW in the world. I suspect the 41 year old Wlad who fought Joshua would also KO the 38 year old Holmes who fought Tyson.
I'm not saying Joshua is as good as Mike was but old Holmes, as good and underrated as he was for his great jab, movement and boxing skill in his prime, doesn't beat old Klitschko.
Go watch Lewis before he got with Manny. He was clumsy as **** and amatuerish. Lewis developed into an ATG, let's give Joshua the same opportunity. On the flip side of what you said, if you put Lewis in his 19th fight against the Joshua we saw in his 19th fight, Lewis gets starched. .
Didn't see your post until I responded but exactly what I'm saying!
Really?
Klitschko was the reigning Champion, in his own backyard without any inactivity
Even if Joshua demolished him, there's no way it'd beat Fury's win.
Klitschko and Fury are the only heavyweights who matter according to you but Joshua KO'ing Klitschko in the best heavyweight title fight in years doesn't beat Fury's snoozefest points victory. Good one man.
Regardless of what one might think of Tyson Fury's comments or behavior outside the ring, it's easy to see why he's so...furious. It's yet to be seen whether Fury truly is capable of winning the world title but you can't blame the guy for trying. After repeated attempts at clinching a shot against Vlad whilst calling out and bashing his respective opponents, he has been seemingly duped by the BBBC and his opponents in the way of making him the mandatory challenger.
There is the possibility that both Haye and Chisora had legitimate injuries but even still, would this type of situation have been tolerated in pro boxing 30, 40 years ago?
It seems like nowadays more fighters claim injury or in some way force a cancelled fight than ever before, especially when there are world ranking/title implications involved.
Fighters certainly had less rights and less say in who they fought in the golden age of boxing. At the same time they were generally more durable and would make few excuses.
I'm willing to bet that a lot of boxing greats such as Joe Louis and Archie Moore fought with ailments and injuries of various kinds on numerous occasions throughout their length careers. If you're not willing to go through the ringer, physically and mentally, in order to achieve the ultimate goal of world championship, you may not be worthy of such a title in the first place.
I think it's fairly ignorant for people to seem to think they know what Bruce Lee would've been like against an elite level boxer. I don't see how that could be determined since Bruce Lee generally did not even attend martial arts tournaments because his style was an amalgamation of a number of styles and he would refuse to conform to the rules and standards of the bulk of competitive fighting.
If you've ever actually done any research on his fighting abilities the examples you would find would be limited to footage of him sparring, his observed movements and defensive techniques as well as stories from friends, family and people who may have known Lee. Such information can be taken with a grain of salt but if you discover many people with a reputation for honesty describing similar circumstances or encounters they may possibly be true.
A common reference to Bruce Lee is that his strength was unparalleled in that his level of focus or as he referred to it, the level of "chi" or energy in his body was so concentrated that he could easily knock people back and onto the ground with one quick, short motion. He had reputedly done this on several occasions to individuals much bigger than himself.
He was an actor yes but his reflexes and overall speed were incredibly high. He trained more rigorously than most boxers today and was in absolutely peak physical condition.
I honestly don't know if he would beat the best boxers in the world but I really don't think it's possible to say for sure one way or another. His legend has certainly been associated with a lot of myth over the years, no doubt due to the plethora of unofficial films that fictionalize his abilities and history.
The ref should be held accountable for his role in Prichard's tragic condition or these types of life threatening injuries will persist throughout professional boxing. He allowed Colon's opponent, Terrel Williams to repeatedly hit Prichard in the back of the head the entire fight until it was so blatantly obvious and continuous that even the ref, Joseph Cooper, who was either bought off or completely incompetent, deemed it suitable to take away a point. This did absolutely nothing to change the horrifying outcome as the damage was done and Williams was able to continue throwing and landing disgusting rabbit punches until he landed the final, devasting blow that felled Prichard, was incorrectly ruled a legal knockdown and arguably did the lethal damage that led to his current condition.
In my honest opinion, that ref, Joseph Cooper, should not only have been banned from ever refereeing a fight again but should also be charged with at least accessory to manslaughter because his lack of control of the fight, inability or unwillingness to prevent foul blows and disregard for the risk involved with a fighter taking repeated punches to the back of the head was a direct cause of Prichard Colon's current state.
What an absolute travesty and yet another unnecessary black mark on the legitimacy of pro boxing.
Man, Pac must have some strong neck muscles to balance that huge melon on his little body. You would think that target would be hard to miss.
Are you not aware of Pacquiao's foot speed? It doesn't matter how big your head is if you're not in range to be hit. That is boxing 101.
Canelo made a champion at a higher weight division look like a rookie! Canelo is a beast!
Are you for real?
Nobody in their right mind thought Fielding had a chance against Canelo. He wasn't a legit champion. Canelo beat a European level fighter for his paper title and before you call me a "hater", Canelo is one of the best boxers out there today and arguably the best middleweight but this was a cherry pick, no way around it. Canelo and his team knew Rocky was the weak link at SMW and the easiest route to a belt, even if it's not a real SMW title since it's one of the WBA's meaningless "regular" titles.
are u joking or you made your transition from Ballet to boxing last night and watched your first fight ever?
This guy is trying to be the next j razor I think, destined for the ignore list of most rational people.
This was nothing like Holyfield vs Lewis 1. Lewis didn’t get dropped once nevermind twice. Lewis shut Holyfield out too. Fury did not shut Wilder out, the rounds without knockdowns were all pretty difficult to score. Wilder was missing a lot, but Fury was not throwing a tonne of punches. I have no problem with the decision.
I guess you know Lewis' career better than he does. Who is Lennox Lewis to make analysis about the current heavyweight division or speak about his own history in the ring anyway?
You might call that a win on your side of the pond but Fury went down twice...................So cry all you want.
Thank Reiss for giving Fury a long count!
Stop crying about Fury going down twice. That's 4 points and only 2 rounds. There are still 10 other rounds of which Wilder won 2 tops. That's 6 points for Wilder and 8 for Fury. You don't win the fight just because you knock your opponent down. Learn how to score a fight before you say stupid **** and I'm not from the other side of the pond.
I think Wilder would walk straight into the Fury rematch
Hasn't the WBC mandated the rematch?
If so, would Wilder not get stripped if he fights anyone but Fury next?
This is gonna be a goddamn scene after this fight lmfao. Got Wilder, Whyte & Fury showing up it seems + Parker & Fury in the ring. Who knows who else shows up now just to get in on it. If Briggs ain't there I'll be shocked.
I sure hope this happens and it sets up Fury v Briggs for Tyson's comeback fight. Even if the fight is boring as hell because Fury will run around and Briggs will windmill until he gets tired, the build up and press conference is guaranteed to entertain!
Briggs: LET'S GO CHAMP!!
Fury: TRUE GYPSY KING OF THE WORLD!!
Lol even Molina himself has said that Wilder would win the Aj fight.
Here's an article for you to educate yourself.
https://www.google.co.nz/amp/www.givemesport.com/1207354-boxer-defeated-by-both-joshua-and-wilder-thinks-theres-a-clear-favourite%3famp
Now all of a sudden Molina is a master boxing mind. I don't give a damn what the Drummer Boy thinks, he got demolished in record time by AJ. End of story.
Why hasn't Joshua KO'ed anybody like Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka and Siarrhei Liakovich? Because Joshua doesn't have REAL knock-out power!
Are you seriously using Wilder's KOs against guys like Szpilka and Liakhovich to reinforce your argument that Joshua doesn't have real knockout power? Give me a break man. Szpilka was KO'd by Jennings and Liakhovich was KO'd by everyone from Briggs to Helenius! Nice try dude.
No, but concussive knock outs over opponents are something to get a hard on over (something Wilder is capable of producing but Anthony Joshua isn't because he is a relative feather fist). Couldn't even keep a 'glass jawed' 41 year old man with a 2 year lay off down for the 10 count.
Anthony Joshua is too feather fisted to KO opponents like how Wilder KO'd Artur Szpilka. For all his muscles, Joshua is as weak as they come and one of the weakest per power to muscle ratio.
Are you on glue? Joshua definitely has his drawbacks and weaknesses but to say he's feather fisted is one of the dumbest things I've read hear. Yeah, he's so feather fisted that he demolished Drummer Boy Molina, an opponent that Wilder got rocked by and took many rounds to get rid of. GTFOH with that trash.
GTFOH - that AJ/Molina fight was a disgrace to the sport. It should of been ruled a no contest due to lack of effort by Molina, and the fans should of all been refunded.
Contender for worst fight of all time.
If that was a disgrace to the sport, what was Wilder's defense against Stiverne? That was the biggest joke in heavyweight history. Stiverne fought like once in 2 years and barely beat Derric ****ing Rossy! That's enough to deem him the mandatory challenger for a world title though right. You have no point whatsoever.