Comments Thread For: Trainer: For Wilder, Joshua is More Winnable Option Than Fury

Wilder sparks AJ out, and Fury schools him Joshua does not have Fury's range/style/movement/defence, so Wilder WILL get to him at some point..... and then that happens..... tiiiiimberrr ! and Joshua does not have killer power..... he does not one-punch guys, and he does not pose the same danger that Wilder poses..... Fury would box the shlt out of him..... ..... THAT, is why Joshua needs to fight Dillian Whyte in April !

Article starts off by saying something like "few people thought Fury could win.." This is just printed untruth. Many people thought Fury would do it. He opened as the favourite, drifted a bit, and on fight day the betting was very close as to who was favoured, with Wilder a slight favourite. So, it is not true to state "not many people thought Fury would win.." Nor is Wilder 'much feared'. I think a better word would be 'very fearful', as he very afraid of AJ and wanted no part of Whyte. Wilder is in a tough spot now. He knows he is an underdog against either Fury or AJ. Maybe he'll fight Breazeale.

Timing movement conditioning reaction that’s what changes once you fight some one that’s excellent. Those are all experience based then you can make conscious adjustments such as increase jabs follow up more on certain punches identify which punches put the oposition into discomfort not pain but put them in uncomfortable positions so weakened their ability you learn about yourself and understand what you need to change some can be changed some things are harder and is gameplan. This was Tyson’s first fight on his comeback the others were simply outings of no purpose. He learned nothing from the first two or than refresh his memory and mood on fight night.

Interesting points but I think when completing an analysis it’s important to move away from being one dimensional. My view on Joshua is he simply isn’t quick enough to catch fury and that wilder will knock you out if caught that’s guaranteed or simply as close as Joshua will no way be able to avoid getting hit and when he does he will highly likely go down. In Joshua Wilder it’s really about who connects first I just fancy wilder more because he has some serious speed with fury I think his ring generalship movement and skill he beats both. However as I mentioned anyone of these can win the first fight between each other and the real test is not 1 fight but 2 or 3 fights. In the heavyweight division it can be over very quick these are big guys one punch can change the game and that’s that. I think In these forums people are far to focused on singular outings and I don’t think that demonstrates who’s the best I think fighting 2 or 3 times betweeen the best in the division determines the best and I truly think that any1 of them could be the best over the course of multiple fights. In saying that I like Tyson Fury the most he reminds me of Mayweather not many knock outs but you can’t lay a glove on him. Both Klitschko and Wilder said they had a bad night and could be better I’m not sure that’s actually true I think their night was fine and Tyson’s skill just upsets the rhythm of these boxers. Klitschko mentioned I didn’t expect him be so quick and if I look back I feel Klitschko is best of both Joshua and Wilder but I think he got schooled(I say that loosely) Klitschko just could not get a shot off he was just nullified. All this speculation is rendered mute considering the nature of heavyweights they all have a shout in being number 1 if the boxing Gods were oh so generous all we would see in the heavyweight division is these 3 face off for the next 3 years and throw the belts into the bin...

Why are you so confident Joshua can take Wilder's power? He was buzzed by Whyte and Klitschko put him down hard. Richard Towers has sparred Klitschko and Wilder, he said Wilder hits far harder. I said as long as he can take the power, not sure where you get ultimate confidence from that statement

I'd have to fundamentally disagree with this assessment. Coldewell didn't actually detail any improvement that Fury can actually make, other than being more confident. Yes confidence plays a major role in competitive sports, especially combat sports, but Fury fought damn near the perfect fight and he still didn't do enough to win. Unfortunate but true, is the fact that Wilder fought a horrible fight, had a horrible game plan, came in lighter then ever, and did just enough to eek out a draw. I'm sorry but the reality is that the improvements in the next fight favor Wilder. And if we're talking confidence, lets not forget Wilder now knows Fury can't take his power. To be honest, I think the second fight will be easier for Wilder. That's based on the previous fight, and what I detailed above. The only thing that Fury can do different in the next fight, is come in lighter, but would that really be to his benefit? The lighter Fury is, the harder he'll find it to keep Wilder off of him. Sure he may be able to move a little better, but at that point, he'd lose the fight just from Wilder simply out working him.

AjWilder??? Whoever has more baby oil on most likely wins that fight

15 million quid is more than he got from fury and more than his entire career earnings He turned that down while crying on Instagram and saying all he wants is thus fight and please God he'll do anything whatever it takes just give him the fight He's full of **** plain and simple. bullshlt, he accepted it LMAO you really don't know that..... ? what the fk is going on lol ??? he accepted that low-ball..... but Hearn refused to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next folks are making excuses, and they don't know why???

Only one fact I’m afraid . Your second point is not actually a fact believe it or not that absolutely is a fact because you don't realize that, is likely where you are going wrong they have obviously made NO genuine effort to make that fight happen, quite the opposite

Wilder fans are mongs Yeah he caught fury in the 9th round He will be lucky to SEE 9 rounds against Joshua If old hypertension Luis Ortiz is beating your ass then I don't fancy your chances against AJ quite frankly. Get real. AJ couldn't even finish feather fisted midgets like takam, parker. And that was when he had everything stacked in his favor. Refs, height, reach, judges, etc...

Hopefully someone will tell the idiot Wilder he needs to rely on sharp jabs and go to Fury's body the first half of the fight, then he'll KO him. Headhunting against a better boxer that is taller with reach is a moronic game plan. I’m sending you green K because that must have hurt I know you love Wilder and there must have been tears in your eyes when you posted that comment. You probably already feel guilty and have covered yourself in baby oil as a sign of respect to Wilder. Well done pal I’m proud of you

Blame his team for what? He just fought in the biggest fight of the year, and it's about to lock in the rematch, which will be twice the size, now everyone knows fury is fit and serious about boxing again. And he's massively increased his reputation and value. It could not have been managed better by wilders team. Low balling eddie looking like a right plonker Blame his team for stalling his career. Hearn the “Plonker” isn’t his promoter. If it takes him ten years to be involved in the “Biggest” fight of the year then he needs to fire that team.

it boils down to common-sense FACT: they offered Joseph Parker 32.5%..... because they ACTUALLY wanted to fight Joseph Parker FACT: they low-balled Deontay Wilder $15M..... because they had no intention of fighting ******* ****** I will let you fill in the blanks a genuine offer for Wilder STARTS at 32.5% has that happened yet..... ? nope, it has not..... and that tells the WHOLE story Only one fact I’m afraid . Your second point is not actually a fact believe it or not

I like this article I think it’s a fair assessment of the scenario. I would speculate that in a Wilder vs Joshua fight however that Wilder is a slight favourite reason being that he has enourmous punching ability and he caught fury who is nigh on impossible to hit. We know that he can also take a punch from the Ortiz fight. Joshua on the other hand is susceptible to knockdowns in addition Deontay goes for the kill once he gets a knockdown and further has the conditioning to last 12 rounds. So for me wilder wins that by TKO but fury Joshua I don’t believe that Joshua has any ring smarts to beat fury and that would be a complete one sided 12 rounds for Fury. I believe for those reasons alone all three need to fight multiple times so that the looser can go and make adjustments and demonstrate his adaptability. The Mayweather era has been overly focused on the 0 I believe a true champion fights all comers but a great Champion comes back from a defeat to reclaim lost titles to cement his place as a undisputed champion or best of era. In the real world in elite sport the differences are minute so if you face an elite boxer you may well loose but to come back make adjustments to win clearly demonstrates that you are not one dimensional. For me it’s not the first fight between all 3 that is interesting it’s the 2nd and 3rd because that shows who’s really who. I really hope we are in an era where the landscape and appetite is about that and not just money percentages and ducking. Are they 3 real men are they capable of legendary status I know 1 in there definitely is and that’s Tyson Fury let’s see what the next few years hold for us in this division. So because Wilder caught Fury that means he will beat Joshua? How about if Joshua fights Fury and catches him more than twice, what does that mean? Wilder too likes hitting the canvas not just Joshua. Klitscho made Joshua hit the canvas and Scioners made Wilder hit the canvas.... who the F#uck is that you ask yourself! Granted Wilder is a good Finisher but so is Joshua. Joshua shows far more effective aggression that Wilder. Has much more to his arsenal. A much better inside fighter and body puncher than Wilder. Will cause Fury problems and not defend like an ancient mummy in scooby doo

If you got everything else I would accept your comments . Unconscious bias my friend. Who cares about Eddie or Winkle. Anybody would be stupid to believe everything that comes out of his mouth which I obviously don’t . However , anyone that believes everything that Winkle says is just as stupid. Therefore I stay out of the she said it boils down to common-sense FACT: they offered Joseph Parker 32.5%..... because they ACTUALLY wanted to fight Joseph Parker FACT: they low-balled Deontay Wilder $15M..... because they had no intention of fighting ******* ****** I will let you fill in the blanks a genuine offer for Wilder STARTS at 32.5% has that happened yet..... ? nope, it has not..... and that tells the WHOLE story

He has not improved his boxing in 11 years and you think he will improve and adjust after the Fury fight? You are asking for too much Now your just being silly.

Messed around, I keep hearing this BS from some posters here. Does it ever occur to you that Hearn doesn’t work for Wilder? Does it ever occur to you that Wilder own team are the ones that messed him around? They are meant to close a deal with Team Joshua and they didn’t, he needs to blame his own team. Blame his team for what? He just fought in the biggest fight of the year, and it's about to lock in the rematch, which will be twice the size, now everyone knows fury is fit and serious about boxing again. And he's massively increased his reputation and value. It could not have been managed better by wilders team. Low balling eddie looking like a right plonker

Wilder isn't scared. He just been messed around constantly by Eddie's ridiculous offers. he's now got much better opportunities with fury. AJ can get to the back of the queue. He's not the top fighter anymore. He can go fight dildo whyte to confirm who is 2nd/3rd best heavy weight in England Messed around, I keep hearing this BS from some posters here. Does it ever occur to you that Hearn doesn’t work for Wilder? Does it ever occur to you that Wilder own team are the ones that messed him around? They are meant to close a deal with Team Joshua and they didn’t, he needs to blame his own team.

1 has devastating 1 punch knock out power. The other has never knocked anyone out cleanly. Lololololol

It's ridiculous to think wilder hasn't learn anything from 12 rounds with fury. Wilder will be much better now he has experience with fury's style. He has not improved his boxing in 11 years and you think he will improve and adjust after the Fury fight? You are asking for too much