If true...fmj makes demands rather then makes negotiations. That's not how this fight is going to be made if he really wants it. Although, I agree he should get the lions share on the purse he's got to be reasonable. We're not talking about a maiadana or a Guerrero here.
So manny accepts the purse. What other ridiculous demands will be next. Seems fmj will demand himself out of this fight so he and floyd fans came claim manny didn't accept. An obvious ploy for fmj to get out this fight while attempting to save face with the public.
LMAO!!! This should be the thread of the year!
Now I'm just waiting for the OP to say "I didn't say that, I didn't say that, don't put words in my mouth" just like his idol Mayweather did LOL!
Lol. Good one.
Pac has put on some of the most memorable fights that I can remember. Win or lose the man's got heart. Whether you like or dislike him as boxing fan you have to give the man respect. A true warrior in the ring and earns my respect.
MAY IS SILENT for weeks as Mannys team calls him out.
Arum continues with business and picks May 2nd. Good for the business and to corner May.
May sees a opportunity and jumps on it by announcing he wants it but list road blocks. States May 2nd knowing that Arum will have an issue. If he was sincere then you don't list road blocks right off the bat. May dictates terms he already knows won't fly. A way out.
If you can't read between the lines then you put the blame on Arum.
Correct if I'm wrong but.wasn't May the b side when he came out of retirement and still made demands when Manny was the a side?
and if Cinco de Mayo is for anyone then why make that date a demand?
Regardless, you're right floyd. I will agree that Manny is the b side at this but stop treating him like he's on the c side. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but your statements just don't jive. Sounds like you are trying to justify your demands but instead you sound like a hypocrite.
when asians start producing marvin haglers, sugar ray leonards, tommy hearns, i can go on all day..
you get the point..pac is not legendary and when he fights floydf you will see that..
Please....the fighters you listed were legendary because they took on the big fights. Saying PAC is not legendary only shows your boxing intelligence is minimal at best. Who wins is the great debate and if your logic says Floyd's wins then the reality is manny has a great chance. Lol
"Throughout this whole process I have remained patient, but at this point I am thoroughly disgusted that Pacquiao and his representatives are trying to blame me for the fight not happening when clearly the blame is on them.
"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass.
"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected. I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30-day cut-off. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests.
"In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smokescreens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight." - Floyd Mayweather 2009
A quote from 2009? We can list all kinds of quotes from both camps at that point in time. What's the problem now? Arum? The reasoning from floyd seems to change with each week so how can anyone believe leaving arum will seal the deal. Let's not forget we are talking about a proven liar. You think that just started overnight. What Floyd says has no merit. Once you get caught everything you say goes out the window. Past and present.
So please leave any fmj quotes out of this. They don't mean s***'
PAC will become a bum once Floyd wins.
From your signature I see you are a fan x-clan fan. Their lyrics processed real substance. For someone who appreciates the depth oddly enough lacks substance in his comments.
Obviously you have no respect for manny'a accomplishments and it's obvious your opinion is bias. PAC will be no bum. Far from it. Mega fight or not....win or lose....he is respected for his heart and his will. Not his wins or looses. It's deeper then that. This is where you are confused.
I don't think some of you people realize how stupid it makes you look to constantly say "stop talking about the past, talk about right now" in this situation. What happened in the past is why the camps are where they are right now.
-There was nothing fake about offering a 14 day cut off for a fight, only for Pacquiao to walk away because he didn't want to draw blood for some reason.
-There was nothing fake about Floyd's team contacting Arum through a 3rd party in an attempt to make the fight, only for Arum to say they were pursuing another Marquez fight (while at the same time publicly saying they would pursue a Mayweather fight)
-There was nothing fake about Floyd directly calling Pacquiao and offering 40 million.
You want to know what is fake, though?
-Talking about how badly you want to fight Mayweather and calling him a coward, only to make excuses like being afraid of needles
-saying drawing blood makes you weak
-having to build a stadium that will only be ready after one of the opponents is already in jail
-having a cut that takes 6 months to heal
-filing a ridiculous lawsuit against said opponent because he suggested that Pacquiao uses PEDs
...the list goes on.
Meanwhile, you idiots ignore all of that **** because Pacquiao and his group of flunkies tell you exactly what they know you want to hear, pretending as if they've done everything possible to make a fight happen, when you KNOW that they havent.
Talking through the media does NOT mean that you had negotiations. THAT IS NOT A NEGOTIATION.
Pacquiao says everything you want to hear. Mayweather says things designed to cause controversey and to piss people off. It's clear as day but you continue to fall for it because you're a sheep that likes to be led.
Anyone that looks at the FACTS of the last 6 years (not MEDIA QUOTES, FACTS) can see that its been Mayweather's camp that has made LEGIT offers to make the fight happen, while Arum has never been honest about his desire to make the fight happen.
Why would Mayweather or Golden Boy continue to put themselves through this facade over and over again when they can make just as much money fighting someone else without the headache of dealing with Arum? Explain it to me.
We can talk all day about the past. In my opinion, what transpired back then we're not legitimate offers. Why a 14 day for manny but he allowed a 18 day for mosely. No consistency. At end of the day manny agreed to to everything little b**** move Floyd presented except for money.
We can agree to disagree but wtf is the problem now. Give me your reasoning on Floyd's comments. Not much you can really say. Lol Let's not forget all the bs excuses. My health, join Tmt, not at my level, I'm not dealing with arum, has to beat bradly and Marquez...etc. the bs goes on and on. There is no dying this video unless you are a Floyd nuthugger.
Regardless, of what you believe is fake or not there nothing fake about your heros comments on this video. Wake up young buck and be a real boxing fan that demands the best fights.
Your boy claims to be the best ever. Ball is in his court so f'n prove it.
Stopped reading after you said that he gave Mosley a 18 day cut off. No further conversation needed.
Why do I even bother. I'm debating with Floyd's left and right nuthugging fan base.
http://www.examiner.com/article/official-copy-of-floyd-mayweather-jr-and-shane-mosley-drug-test-summary
Again, you have been educated. Lol.
"We aint talkin' about when Pac rejected the fight.. we talkin' about right now!" Lol you people are hilarious.
Last time I checked Pacquiao's camp has made absolutely no attempts to contact Mayweather's camp for a fight. All you seem to be able to go off of is random quotes made through the media, and you seem perfectly content with that for some reason.
What exactly is Mayweather saying yes or no to? Would you feel better if Mayweather told you what you wanted to hear instead of actually taking the steps to make a fight like Pacquiao and his camp?
Hasn't Mayweather made 3 legitimate attempts to contact Pacquiao's camp over the last 5-6 years, only to be turned away each time? How many more times do you want him to reach out before you realize that Arum isn't too keen on making the fight happen?
Why the hell would pacs camp contact Floyd when you've got these kind of statements coming out of Floyd's mouth? Guys are calling out Floyd all the time but at the end day Floyd is his own boss and he decides who he fights. If he has interest he will let it be known.
Your only defense is to bring back the past but you ignore today. Floyd's so called legitimate offers were fake attempts. Making offers you know damn well manny won't accept. A way for you to get out of the fight so you don't look like a straight up coward. Saving face. People who have business sense and are real boxing fans can see through the masked excuses.
Offering 40 mil in a fight that could reach 200-300 mil with no PPV is no where near legitimate for pacs status at that time. Damn disrespectful if anything. Funny how he was willing to work with arum back then but now he won't. Where is the logic here and in any of Floyd's statements.
It's just funny to me that Floyd fans keep coming up bs. It's no wonder why he won't man up cause he's got guys fooled in your heads and in your wallets. Making excuses for him not to fight when a real boxing fan would want his favorite fighter to take the challenge.
You have Ali as your all time favorite. Even the great Ali has asked Floyd to fight manny. Doesn't that tell you something. Lol.
OK prove to me that the claim that he would give his 18M purse of the Rios fight to charity.
https://twitter.com/CNBCWorld/status/404753755515523072
he knowingly lied about this IMO...
this is more likely what happened:
post#5
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f53/pacman-donates-18-million-rios-purse-charity-2615511/
QUOTE: from a random poster on SD
there are also YT vids were manny is flip flopping on a question about the cut off date for testing, i think it was with brian kenny. manny knows how to lie and BS just like FMJ by the way... When FMJ said he was gonna fight Pacman after Ortiz, that was foul and a lie/BS also IMO.
Look we all like pacman but he is no saint and if you are willing to believe everything he says blindly power to you...
18 million. No. His assets were frozen. Donate yes. He borrowed to get funds available. That's holds more merit the Floyd.
Press conference for Floyd vs Ortiz. "Manny your next" member that.
Weeks later...I never said that. "Don't put words in my mouth" lol.
You know what talking about....neither are perfect but it's clear as day who holds more credibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh6zGMFmSV8
start at 3:30
Lol. You are indeed gullible. Fmj is a proven liar. Anything he says does not have any merit.
Mp on the other hand has credibility.
Nuff said. Next.
Lmao.nothing he says has merit if it goes against your agenda. Any other time you'll quote what he says as if its gospel. Point proven.[/QUOTE
My agenda is to see the best boxing matches possible. And yours?
keep trying buddy....
Come on pacman fans have you guys actually been to school??? 300 M without PPV where are your sources???WITHOUT PPV?!?!?!
most of you guys dont know numbers, and dont care to breakdown numbers!!!
The money is primarely earned by PPV. if 3M peeps would by for 100$ that would leave 150M to be split(after cable companies get their 50% of every PPV). Its because you guys dont break down numbers and dont care to look up what actually previously was earned when fighters were doing more than 2M PPV buys, you guys come with rediculous claims!!! it seems as if you honestly think FMJ would earn 260M and Pacman 40M... this is not reality.
I see FMJ max earning around net net net 80M if he would fight Pacman to be concrete.
We'll know after 2014 if manny ever wanted a piece of FMJ...
Most of your numbers are based on pure assumptions. Here's your source.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/manny-pacquiao-insists-hell-fight-222300428--box.html
Coming straight from mp's mouth which has not been a proven liar. You have now been enlightened. Next.......
How can any real boxing fan be down witmoph Floyd when he doesn't give a crap about them or the sport. He's a selfish prick and who does not have real confidence in his skills or he'd bring it. TBE? Not even close.
No respect for floyd.....I can't respect any boxer who makes excuses. Clear as day.
Ggg walks down canelo in 1st. fight= draw
Canelo walks down ggg in rematch= win for canelo.
Corruption wins the day again and Ggg gets screwed. Not once but twice.
When boxing became a business it became corrupt. He's the champ at 160 so that means Canelo had to work. He had flurries but did not win rounds. Canelo is not the Mexican fighter he claims to be. He ran most of the fight.
What a cop-out for Mayweather....Talk about cherry picking! Mayweather picked Cotto cause he knows the PR fans will buy into it.
Sorry, this fight isn't even close....