Manny Pacquiao has returned to the Philippines after his knockout loss to Juan Manuel Marquez, saying he will fight again despite some members of his family imploring him to retire. Shortly after arriving in Manila on Wednesday, Pacquiao told fans ''we will rise again'' and ''there will be future fights.''
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LOL at you telling me to "get real". I am not some irrational boxing fan that loves one boxer obsessively and unconditionally. I love both Pacquiao and JMM. They are two of the best champions of the past decade. But they BOTH are.
I love how you go on and on about how Marquez clearly and obviously won the first three fights, and then make the statement you made in bold. Three knockdowns equals a 10-6 round, and Manny lost the fight because one judge erroneously scored it a 10-7, causing the first match to end in a draw.
The fourth fight was the FIRST MATCH WITH A DECISIVE VICTORY for either guy, and it was JMM because he knocked Pacquiao out cold. You are delusional though acting as if Marquez has always dominated the series, considering the first three fights were all close, and Marquez was getting was he was dishing up until the KO. GTFOH with all that ****.
The funny thing is, Marquez himself would agree with me. LOL at 'get real'.
The 1st fight was a draw, even with the 3 kd's. The next 2 were Marquez, even with the kd in the 2nd fight. In the last fight, there was a different dynamic - Manny got dropped (and it looked ugly). But he got up & busted Marquez up. Manny figured since Marquez never knocked him down before, that he could get reckless, but Marquez is a master at adjustments, worked on that punch & caught him lovely. No need for a 5th fight, because Marquez will do him even more dirtier than the last fight. Only way this happens is because of what? $$$$$$$$$ I agree, they were all competitive.
Get real.
1.) The judge who made the scoring mistake scored round 4 to Pacquiao. Clearly, Pacquiao did not win that round, go watch again
2.) Marquez won that fight by more than 1 point anyway
3.) Pac should have been deducted a point for hitting JMM on the deck
4.) Pac knocked JMM down 3 times in the first round and broke his nose..... and yet STILL couldn't win the fight..... DUDE, that means he got one hell of a boxing lesson, get real
" we all know who won that fight "
~ P4P #1 fighter on the planet
LOL at you telling me to "get real". I am not some irrational boxing fan that loves one boxer obsessively and unconditionally. I love both Pacquiao and JMM. They are two of the best champions of the past decade. But they BOTH are.
I love how you go on and on about how Marquez clearly and obviously won the first three fights, and then make the statement you made in bold. Three knockdowns equals a 10-6 round, and Manny lost the fight because one judge erroneously scored it a 10-7, causing the first match to end in a draw.
The fourth fight was the FIRST MATCH WITH A DECISIVE VICTORY for either guy, and it was JMM because he knocked Pacquiao out cold. You are delusional though acting as if Marquez has always dominated the series, considering the first three fights were all close, and Marquez was getting was he was dishing up until the KO. GTFOH with all that ****.
The funny thing is, Marquez himself would agree with me. LOL at 'get real'.
you're a nut-cupping pac-tard....the nerve of you.
Is that it? 'errr....you pac-tard...errr...mmuuhhhh'. Another thick spastic who believes anyone who doesnt want to gobble floyds ballbag must be a pacquiao fan, this is yet another way floydiots project their bumsniffery like a giant neon sign.
Here's the news - Just because you are happy that you are a nutcuddler, doesnt mean anyone(except from your piss stained, retarded fellow floydiots) else is. What a prize prick!:lol1:
you're a nut-cupping pac-tard....the nerve of you.
Is that it? 'errr....you pac-tard...errr...mmuuhhhh'. Another thick spastic who believes anyone who doesnt want to gobble floyds ballbag must be a pacquiao fan, this is yet another way floydiots project their bumsniffery like a giant neon sign.
Here's the news - Just because you are happy that you are a nutcuddler, doesnt mean anyone(except from your piss stained, retarded fellow floydiots) else is. What a prize prick!:lol1:
What the fuk is a " mang " ?
Dont talk sh1t to me please.
That is fake sh1t, and you know it.
No, you are wrong, Marquez has been in situations like that his whole career, and nobody has ever knocked him out. He adjusts, that is what he does. It is fanboy rubbish to use the " woulda, coulda, shoulda" system.
Let me explain why.....
1.) Pacquiao has not knocked anybody out in a long time.
2.) Marquez adjusts to EVERY opponent/situation.
Point #2 is far more likely than Point #1, for obvious reasons.
You need to drop that fake " mang " sh1t, it is ridiculous and annoying.
What I've been saying for eons- Marquez is one of the best, if not the best at making adjustments in the ring.....
You were wrong to say that JMM the great gave Pac those matches, when the world knows Pac gave them to JMM.
You never saw Pac begging for them, going to Mexico and wearing shirts saying he won all the fights.
You are blind if you say that Pac wasn't winning and getting ready to KO JMM, even JMM said it , he said he had to do something or he was getting KO'd by PAC.
We all know that Pac got to excited and fell into the trap , Great Risk takers have done it in the past and will do it in the future.
Nobodys crying about JMM KOing Pac so go to your room little stupid sucker
and
Mang,,,If you just want to troll go to Mayweathers site and troll
Stop your shyte! JMM said he had to be careful because he COULD get ko'd. He got excited & got ko'd, huh? So he was aroused? WTFIWWY? Pac played himself & got caught, end of story. Stop being a turd & get out of Pac's a$$ already, MANG!
i could give two ****s if i never see this overrated bum fight again. a so-called ww champion getting ktfo by a 40 yr old career sfw is not worthy of being called great. sleepy-head needs to step aside and let the young up and comers get a chance at the spot light.
Are you in competition with Larry for stupidest quote of the week, because my god you're having a damn good go at it!:lol1:
I hope he does take some time off but I hope he does come back and fight Marquez for the 5th time. It happens he got caught with a punch he didn't see coming. Marquez should demand a lot more money he has Bob Arum and Manny in the palm of his hands or retire.
Come on man, Marquez is far more skilled than Pacquiao, get real.
You were wrong to say that JMM the great gave Pac those matches, when the world knows Pac gave them to JMM.
You never saw Pac begging for them, going to Mexico and wearing shirts saying he won all the fights.
You are blind if you say that Pac wasn't winning and getting ready to KO JMM, even JMM said it , he said he had to do something or he was getting KO'd by PAC.
We all know that Pac got to excited and fell into the trap , Great Risk takers have done it in the past and will do it in the future.
Nobodys crying about JMM KOing Pac so go to your room little stupid sucker
and
Mang,,,If you just want to troll go to Mayweathers site and troll
His nose wasn't broken, and He wasn't desperate. It was a timed accurate counter punch. Give credit where credit is due.
The Punch was due to a perfect Fight Plan, and excellent conditioning!!!
I disagree and think to go on a crusade for the 5th fight.
Pac """"""GAVE"""""" Marquez three extra fights after the draw, he lost the last , so the professional JMM is , I think he will consider Pac and will give him the Last fight of the great rivalry and show the world he can really do this again or get KO'd himself.
I would definitely love to see a 5th considering how good the 4th was, but it was the first definitive win of their series, and Marquez was definitely getting what he was dishing before he landed that sweet right hand. If I'm Marquez, I would only consider the 5th fight for the reason you gave, because Pac fought him again after winning. But Marquez won't top that KO, and he's 39 years old. If he retires, I won't blame him for that either. Don't wanna see Pacquiao retire on a KO though. I want to see him go out on a win. Just not sure about it being at Marquez's expense. Hell, I like both guys. What can I say?
Marquez """"""GAVE"""""" Pacquiao 4 chances.
Pacquiao has never beaten Marquez.
Marquez nearly killed Plankiao last weekend.
I thought he was dead.
Despite the KO loss this past Saturday, it doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao has beat Marquez before. Hell, he got robbed in the first fight thanks to a faulty judge's scorecard. Marquez won the war, but let's keep it real, Pacquaio won some battles. GTFOH.
Pacquiao didn't get a concussion from that shot and he looks good and healthy. He's ready to go again.
I agree he was in the best shape I've seen since Dela Hoya in that fight. Going into the 6th and just pounding Marquez' face and with blood pouring out of the nostrils he figured there was 1 or 2 rounds left. Marquez in the meantime admitted that Manny could knock him out at anytime. A desperate Marquez making a desperate move ended up landing the perfect shot as Manny went for the kill. Even though Manny could have eased up and took his time since Marquez was already in trouble with the broken nose and blood pouring out and affecting his breathing. Manny being Manny takes the risk anyways. What can you not love about that?
His nose wasn't broken, and He wasn't desperate. It was a timed accurate counter punch. Give credit where credit is due.
I think it could be a loss he struggles to recover from but on the flip side we are sure to see him training and working harder than ever
Of course there is no need for him to retire but at this stage of his career things might be a lot more difficult for him than in recent times
let me tell that a man that never hurt MANNY in 36 rounds can't put him KD...JMM was able to take a powerfull right hook and a tremendous straight left hand only to lose his balance touching the canvas with the glove but he was still strong on his legs......sorry but i don't believe that DONKEY CAN FLY and IMO the combination:
HUGE MUSCLES + COACH THAT WORKED WITH STEROIDS IN THE PAST = CHEATER!
Revert back to fight #2 and fast forward to 35 second of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVStmLCoH30
Marquez "never" hurt Manny? Did Manny just feel like break dancing in the middle of a fight? LOL.
Manny has connected Marquez many times and he still got up. Matter of fact, he has been connected 4 times and gotten up.
MANNY was fighting very well but i saw no movements right-left,right-left with the body before attack and he let JMM put his feet over his feet again;anyawy he was fighting good and JMM's face was becoming to bleed badly before the KO;anyawy let me tell that a man that never hurt MANNY in 36 rounds can't put him KD and KO cold with only one punch and no combinations but most incredible is that JMM was able to take a powerfull right hook and a tremendous straight left hand only to lose his balance touching the canvas with the glove but he was still strong on his legs......sorry but i don't believe that DONKEY CAN FLY and IMO the combination:
HUGE MUSCLES + COACH THAT WORKED WITH STEROIDS IN THE PAST = CHEATER!
It's apparent you know nothing about boxing. JMM was the smarter fighter that night. You really need to go back and look at the 3 fights once again if you believe Marquez never hurt Pacman.
That right connected perfect and was a combination of Manny's full force going forward and Marquez landing it at the perfect and most powerful place - nobody would be able to get up from that connection, even if hit by a pillow fisted fighter.
With regard to your allegations of steroid use, please look up the definition of irony. lol.
Pacquiao needs to retire or at least take a careful look at Mayweather's self-preservation model like fighting once a year or two. He should come back after a long, rested vacation.
Well watch and see everyone. Yes Manny looked pretty good but I am telling you, no one recovers 100% from KO's like that, no one. Especially this late in their careers when they were already slightly declining. Don't take my word for it, watch and see what happens if Manny keeps fighting. You are more KO prone once you have been laid out, same with concussions. I suggest Manny takes 1-2 more fights and carefully selects his opponents because that brutal KO will be in the back of his mind and in the opponents mind. Same with Wlad K., he changed his whole style to resurrect his career. Manny in incapable of changing his style and he will continue to be open for those counter right shots. Can everyone make him pay? No but a few can and will. I see no point in another JMM fight but if so, he will be more tentative and just get outboxed. He won't be aggressive again because he will be taking the same shots that put him down twice. I hate to break it to you Pac fans but the end is near, I have said it for a while now. After the last JMM fight I knew it was. I guess we will see if I am wrong or not, but that is what I feel is coming, more images of Pac on the canvas.
Why not. His speed was on point, so was his power and conditioning. Hell that was the best Pacquiao looked since the Cotto fight.
He made a mistake and was clipped, but it wasn't like he was taking a beating or getting outboxed.
I'm glad he isn't retiring and hopefully he can take on Rios/Bradley win that one and rematch Marquez.
What I think Manny will learn from this is that he doesn't need to revert back to his overly aggressive style as he is more skilled and he doesn't have to take the risk he did against Marquez (and earlier in his career) to put opponents away.
exactly...he was mos def on point, was beating Marquez face in and got countered when he came in straight ahead. sh.it happens in boxing.
I agree with you 100% even though others think he's done. That night he would have beaten anybody else at that weight not named Marquez or Mayweather. And even with those 2 names there is no guarantee he wouldn't win next time out. You just gotta give Marquez credit for being a truly elite fighter. Marquez is the one that would benefit most from retirement because there would be little gained (besides money) in a fifth fight. Unfortunately for Pacquiao, his promoter limits his opponent options and that is the real travesty because Pac vs Alexander, Guerrero, Canelo, Mayweather, etc...are all good fights.
couldnt agree with you more
there will be more catch weight fights and damaged goods..because we just found out anyone who possesses "any" danger is too much for him.
haters gon hate, bi.tches gon bi.tch!
How many fighters would get robbed the way he did vs Bradley and then have a big smile on his face and say "I have to respect the judges opinion." And then after getting KO'd the way he did on Saturday after he was taking over the fight and say "Hey, that's boxing. That's sports." The guy truly is a class act and has given me and many, many boxing fans such excitement in his career. I am truly grateful that I was able to watch most of his career while in my youth because I will always remember the joy he brought to this sport. Who cares that he's not the single greatest of all-time. The guy will NEVER be forgotten in boxing, period.
and thats why he's regarded and will go down in history as not only a great boxer but a great person..took the L like a man, nuff said
He looked pretty good sat night but got caught with a terrific counter.Id like too see JMM retire this is the perfect time too go out
JMM should, theres nothing more to accomplish, he's damn near 40 and has his health, familia and a humongous win over his greatest adversary
Paq got KO'd violently and fighters are never the same after a devastating Ko like that. DOUBT sets in and Paq will fight afraid from now on. It's over Manny. Marquez now has won all 4 fights.
haters gon hate, bi.tches gon bi.tch!
he better not ever get in the ring with marquez . the samething will happen.he does'nt know how to fight. ive said it that speed and power won't get it done against the elite.what happend was going to happen sooner or later. luckily sooner because had mayweather hit with the same shot.he'd still be laying there right now.
you mean mayweather who said pac was easy work, wouldnt even sweat in the ring if the fight happened, pac was a midget, etc yet still hasnt dared step in the ring with Pac??!??!?!?! Fact is FMJ just lost out on thee BIGGEST payday he would have ever made!
I disagree and think to go on a crusade for the 5th fight.
Pac """"""GAVE"""""" Marquez three extra fights after the draw, he lost the last , so the professional JMM is , I think he will consider Pac and will give him the Last fight of the great rivalry and show the world he can really do this again or get KO'd himself.
I think he will too, but if he doesnt, thats fine as well.
Manny looked good on Saturday until he got aced. I'm not sure if that type of loss will change him or not as a fighter. I'm inclined to think nobody forgets an experience like that, but Manny is also a unique fighter and the fact that he hasn't completely retreated from the public eye is a telling sign that he isn't slipping into a crazy depression like so many fighters tend to do in this situation..
I hope he treads carefully. Get the 5th rematch if you can, rematch Bradley if you can.. That's it though. Forget about fighting Floyd, don't fight Alvarez.
If Manny just tries to redeem his 2 back to back losses from this year then that is a career as far as I'm concerned.
one HELLUVA career!
MANNY was fighting very well but i saw no movements right-left,right-left with the body before attack and he let JMM put his feet over his feet again;anyawy he was fighting good and JMM's face was becoming to bleed badly before the KO;anyawy let me tell that a man that never hurt MANNY in 36 rounds can't put him KD and KO cold with only one punch and no combinations but most incredible is that JMM was able to take a powerfull right hook and a tremendous straight left hand only to lose his balance touching the canvas with the glove but he was still strong on his legs......sorry but i don't believe that DONKEY CAN FLY and IMO the combination:
HUGE MUSCLES + COACH THAT WORKED WITH STEROIDS IN THE PAST = CHEATER!
no need to accuse JMM, as i'm sure you were upset with the accusations that were thrown on pac. Pac said he lost fair and square, people need to accept that and move on!
Marquez """"""GAVE"""""" Pacquiao 4 chances.
Pacquiao has never beaten Marquez.
Marquez nearly killed Plankiao last weekend.
I thought he was dead.
haters gon hate, bi.tches gon bi.tch!