Imagine getting school by not only a coward but a rich coward?
Deevel, do you still believe Mayweather will never ever ever ever ever fight Pacquaio?
A coward with brittle hands, that's 38 and doesn't even like boxing at that.
That sucks.
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Now he will be remembered as the rich coward who is greater than Manny :rofl:
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I don't like all this A-side, B-side talk. I do think Floyd's numbers and undefeated record warrant 60-40 but he is not in the position to just dictate terms without a negotiation. It's a super fight for a reason, even casual fans want to see the two of them in the ring TOGETHER. They generate far less money when they fight other opponents. For that reason alone, it is illogical to say that one guy deserves FAR more than the other guy.
It's pretty damn simple. Women lie, Men lie, Numbers DON'T. Floyd is the clear A side, Manny is the B Side.
I like how Floyd kept it real about that whole "i do it for the fans sht" btw..
With all this talk about A-side and B-side. What Floyd has to understand that he was MUCH less of a star and attraction when he faced Oscar than Pac is now. He had to bend to Oscar's ever demand in order to become the break thru star he is today. Pac has already become a break thru star. Should Floyd get a bigger split? Sure. Without a doubt. Should Pac have zero say so in negotiations? No.
Pac is b side. He has no say. End of fcking discussion.
If Floyd was b side or GOT KTFO NO ONE WILL GIVE HIM THE SAME BENEFITS THEY GIVE PACQUIAO. I SWEAR TO GOD YOU DUDES ARE ANNOYING.
No you have the problem if I stated you were right and then followed that up with my the rest of my post saying nothing about manny being afraid of needles. Why would you ask me to show you anything about manny saying he is afraid of needles.
My post was showing you that manny lies just like floyd lies.
If you could comprehend what I said in my post you would have responded about the 30 days and the video but you didn't which led me to believe you didn't, couldn't or refused to comprehend what you just read.
thats nice but i wasnt debating if manny was a lair or not. the other poster posted saying manny is a lair by saying he is afraid of needles. i simply asked him to show me where and when manny said that. im not sure why u quoted me with all that extra stuff.
Oh...i get what Paulie was talking about now with the A side B side thing.
I guess everyone is going to be using that crap now.
I like how Floyd was in his 'nice guy' mode. Still managed to talk bollocks to the arse licking interviewer..."boxing is one of the last bastions of racism"??? Really?
And he says that talking to the richest boxer ever...a black man.
Floyd says if he was white he would be so much richer and more popular. Thats true.
But if he was Mexican he would be more popular with Mexicans. Its not to do with racism.
u quoted me by saying pac said he could only be tested 30 days from the fight but a video surface showing him being tested 24 says before the fight so thats not him lying? my quote to the other poster was on the needle part only. so maybe its u who has a reading comprehension?
No you have the problem if I stated you were right and then followed that up with my the rest of my post saying nothing about manny being afraid of needles. Why would you ask me to show you anything about manny saying he is afraid of needles.
My post was showing you that manny lies just like floyd lies.
If you could comprehend what I said in my post you would have responded about the 30 days and the video but you didn't which led me to believe you didn't, couldn't or refused to comprehend what you just read.
The stall has been Floyd from day one. I don't know how poeple don't get this. Something about Pacquiao has always had him shook. Pac used to deserve 50/50 when he was P4P #1 but now 60/40 is about right.
If the fight ever gets made, I will be surprised.
Why would I show where manny said that when the first sentence in my post I said you were right about manny not saying that. It was someone from manny team who said that.
WTF is up with your reading comprehension to even ask me to show you that!
u quoted me by saying pac said he could only be tested 30 days from the fight but a video surface showing him being tested 24 says before the fight so thats not him lying? my quote to the other poster was on the needle part only. so maybe its u who has a reading comprehension?
Why would I show where manny said that when the first sentence in my post I said you were right about manny not saying that. It was someone from manny team who said that.
WTF is up with your reading comprehension to even ask me to show you that!
see post below this one.
You are right.
Pac did say he couldn't test within 30 days because it would drain him and make him weak. Then that video surfaced of him being tested (not for steroids) inside of 30 days and then he said ok I can be tested inside of 30 days.
So is that not a lie or he just forgot that he was tested inside of 30 days before?
Look I don't have dog in this race I think both sides messed this fight up and they both share the blame for it not happening in different ways.
Kuyut...whatever so that proves he is a liar?
So Pac saying he is afraid of needles then going on a string of fights with testing isnt a slap in his fans face for being the main reason for not fighting the first time around???
the original statement
the statement was that manny is a lair for saying he is afraid of needles. can u show me where manny said that?
Why would I show where manny said that when the first sentence in my post I said you were right about manny not saying that. It was someone from manny team who said that.
WTF is up with your reading comprehension to even ask me to show you that!
Floyd said two things in the video which trump everything ever said on this website or by a boxing blogger or journalist about Floyd being scared of Pacquaio, about Floyd ducking Pac and about Floyd wanting to get the majority of the money and control the terms.
He said that, when he asked for random drug tests during negotiations for their first fight, Pacquaio's team wanted to know when the USADA staff would show up to do the drug tests If you are clean, you don't need to know when a drug test will be scheduled. That tells me that Pac was definitely taking PEDs.
The second thing was that Floyd said near the end that he had people who worked in Pacquaio's camp working for him now and he (Floyd) knows (because Pac former team members told him) how much the checks were that Pacquaio was receiving. In other words, Floyd is saying the same thing that I have been saying for years. Bob Arum has not been paying Pacquaio $20 to $25 million per fight in guranteed money like Arum claims. Floyd stated several months ago that, according to Pac's former conditioning coach, Pac's biggest check was $7 million.
This is one of the reason why Mayweather is playing hardball in negotiations in refusing to pay Pac 40 per 50 percent of the money.
The bold is bull!! What Manny is paid should not matter to Floyd or be his concern. Floyd should have a number in his head as to what he wants as his guarantee. As long as that number is met what business is it of Floyd's how much Manny is getting? Its not like just because Floyd will take X and Manny gets X amount less than him the remaining money will just go to Floyd purse for the fight.
Manny shouldn't get 50% of the ppv revenue and everybody haters and fans alike have said that.
I actually think promotion is the hold up. With Floyd not wanting Arum to have any say so or top rank banners/advertisments and arum is not going for it.
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