At that time Pac was in a more even position t say what he wants. Floyd tried to pull the type of **** he pulled against Maidana and it didn't work.
Can't believe how clear it is now after the glove thing. I use to think it was an Arum thing.
someone edit a pic with Madaina wearing these gloves...
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At that time Pac was in a more even position t say what he wants. Floyd tried to pull the type of **** he pulled against Maidana and it didn't work.
Can't believe how clear it is now after the glove thing. I use to think it was an Arum thing.
I'm no Pact@rd, but I think this is basically correct. Pacquiao is a proud champ and didn't want to be pushed around in negotiations by Mayweather. His team, I think, underestimated (a) how sh1tty his stand on testing would look to the public and more importantly (b) how willing Mayweather would be to walk away from the negotiating table if they pushed too hard. Pacquiao gradually learned his lesson and has basically given in, but now The Leech Team is tied too tightly to Dicky and GBP and is completely unable to even fathom negotiations with Arum.
oh is that so? because i thought it was him refusing drug tests back when 50/50 was on the table
When did "I won't do business with Arum, ever" come in?
The Make A Wish Foundation brought a kid dying of cancer to see Floyd. The kid asked Floyd to make his last wish come true.
He asked Floyd, "Please fight Manny Pacquiao"
Floyd replied, "sorry. But in going on vacation"
Floyd Mayweather ducked the fight.
Floyd didn't do it, he said the kid wasn't really sick....
Its becoming more obvious that Floyd don't want a fair fight...
Hell, they've been caught in a lie so many times it's hard to keep count.
When did PAC walk away from Floyd? During Floyd's retirement, vacation, or negotiations that Floyd claimed never happened. Or the 40mil flat fee offer? You can revise history but Floyd has pulled so much stuff and its called pulling rank or something to that effect...
Floyd's a cherry picking b*tch. Take the test, drop your promoter, sign with Mayweather promotions, fight with these pillows on your fists.... It's become embarrassing.
Floyd will keep ducking on Pacquiao. I'm pretty sure he has some nice excuses still on his sleeves just in case he get pressured again.
Idiot Pac didn't agree to Floyd demands because he is more than an A side than your coward boy specially he just came back from a fake retirement. Slowy but surely he getting exposed now one by one by these blinding facts.
You can bet your life, your house and everything Floyd will demand Pac to wear pillow gloves and metal shoes if the negotiation takes place again.
PAC was never the A side bro. Roach said it's their fault the fight didn't initially happy. But I guess roach doesn't know anything huh
At that time Pac was in a more even position t say what he wants. Floyd tried to pull the type of **** he pulled against Maidana and it didn't work.
Can't believe how clear it is now after the glove thing. I use to think it was an Arum thing.
Here we go again. Total garbage son. Mayweather agreed to 147, standard ring and standard 8oz gloves with no stipulation on brand. Also agreed to a 10 mil per pound penalty and to ost with a fortnight cut off. Pac walked and his coach just confirmed something that non MP ball slurping fans already knew.
See, you can't get yourself to agree with what I said even though I gave you examples.
in the first negotiation they were about 10 days off on the cutoff dates. They just couldn't agree.
- Did you forgive Floyd for going on several vacations?
- Did you forgive Floyd for announcing that he would fight Ortiz like a week after it was announced that Manny would take on Marquez
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Manny you are NEXT" but not meaning it?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Take the test and we have a fight" but not meaning it?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "no fight if Manny is promoted by Arum" when that has been the case since DAY #1. Why the change? Ran out of roadblocks?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "must avenge your losses first" then saying he will fight either Maidana or Khan even though they didn't have to avenge their losses?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "0 PPV money for Manny" ..... since all you care about is getting the fight on but you now realized that Floyd don't care!
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" in 2010
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" in 2013/2014
- Did you forgive Floyd for ACCUSING Manny of PEDs with no proof and therefore killing the chance for a fight in 2010?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Manny must joing TMT or no fight"
- Will you forgive Floyd for putting new roadblocks in the future like "Manny can't use punchers gloves. No fight .... health comes first!!!"
Save your breath. I remember how it all went down. I'm talking about pre Clottey when there was no bad blood. After that there were law suits and a lot of postering on both sides. But there was that one time at the end of 09 when the fight should've happened and it didn't. Floyd agree to all Mannys demands. Weight, gloves, etc... He even moved off his May date to March so Manny could run for office in May. Floyd gave up a lot. Even hired Schaefer to negotiate on his behalf because Arum and Haymon can't be in the same room together. All that and Manny chose Clottey. I'm sorry maybe my mind fvcked up but I can't see your point of view. I really can't.
When you pass on a 50/50 split from Floyd Mayweather you do not want the fight. You can't convince me bro. I will never forgive Manny for choosing Clottey over Floyd. The guy turned down OSDT with a 14 day cutoff lol. And Floyd's the ducker? I'm sorry but I can't see your point of view.
See, you can't get yourself to agree with what I said even though I gave you examples.
in the first negotiation they were about 10 days off on the cutoff dates. They just couldn't agree.
- Did you forgive Floyd for going on several vacations?
- Did you forgive Floyd for announcing that he would fight Ortiz like a week after it was announced that Manny would take on Marquez
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Manny you are NEXT" but not meaning it?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Take the test and we have a fight" but not meaning it?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "no fight if Manny is promoted by Arum" when that has been the case since DAY #1. Why the change? Ran out of roadblocks?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "must avenge your losses first" then saying he will fight either Maidana or Khan even though they didn't have to avenge their losses?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "0 PPV money for Manny" ..... since all you care about is getting the fight on but you now realized that Floyd don't care!
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" in 2010
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" in 2013/2014
- Did you forgive Floyd for ACCUSING Manny of PEDs with no proof and therefore killing the chance for a fight in 2010?
- Did you forgive Floyd for saying "Manny must joing TMT or no fight"
- Will you forgive Floyd for putting new roadblocks in the future like "Manny can't use punchers gloves. No fight .... health comes first!!!"
No it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
why?
Well, Floyd passed up the same opportunity to make his biggest payday at the time. Yet, you are not saying that. Why? it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
Note: Remember that neither could have predicted the future. If Floyd would have lost in 2010 to Mosley by KO in the 2nd round, everyone would have said that Floyd missed the opportunity......Yet, you are not saying that. Why? it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
When you pass on a 50/50 split from Floyd Mayweather you do not want the fight. You can't convince me bro. I will never forgive Manny for choosing Clottey over Floyd. The guy turned down OSDT with a 14 day cutoff lol. And Floyd's the ducker? I'm sorry but I can't see your point of view.
First it was Floyd who ducked PAC. Now ariza and roach say it was mannys fault and all the sudden PAC was justified in not fighting lol. I swear
Idiot Pac didn't agree to Floyd demands because he is more than an A side than your coward boy specially he just came back from a fake retirement. Slowy but surely he getting exposed now one by one by these blinding facts.
You can bet your life, your house and everything Floyd will demand Pac to wear pillow gloves and metal shoes if the negotiation takes place again.
I don't care what anybody says. When you pass up a 50/50 split from Floyd Mayweather you don't want the fight. It's not because I'm a fan of Floyd. It's common sense.
No it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
why?
Well, Floyd passed up the same opportunity to make his biggest payday at the time. Yet, you are not saying that. Why? it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
Note: Remember that neither could have predicted the future. If Floyd would have lost in 2010 to Mosley by KO in the 2nd round, everyone would have said that Floyd missed the opportunity......Yet, you are not saying that. Why? it's because you are a fan of Floyd.
Floyd's a cherry picking b*tch. Take the test, drop your promoter, sign with Mayweather promotions, fight with these pillows on your fists.... It's become embarrassing.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
First it was Floyd who ducked PAC. Now ariza and roach say it was mannys fault and all the sudden PAC was justified in not fighting lol. I swear
common sense is not a aspect some of these posters have!
People are going to look back 20 years from now, watch the Maidana fight and cry robbery.
No matter how much you idiot Mayeather fans band together, try to say Floyd is untouchable, he wiped Maidana out, it will never be true.
The facts are the facts and the fight was close.
Get real only ones calling this a robbery are Marcos fans and PAC turds. Nobody ever said it was a wipeout
Here comes to the excuses after realization sets in that Maidana lost
People are going to look back 20 years from now, watch the Maidana fight and cry robbery.
No matter how much you idiot Mayeather fans band together, try to say Floyd is untouchable, he wiped Maidana out, it will never be true.
The facts are the facts and the fight was close.