Like i said im just passing information and for the idiot that said ima troll u clearly didnt read what i said but its ok ur ignorance is abundantly clear ;). As far as yankees stadium goes, i know its a long shot but if arum was ready to build a whole new arena for pacquiao mayweather y is yankees stadium in december so ludicrous? Im sure if they really wanted they can figure something out. Im just sayin
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this isnt directed to the TS...its to bradley...stfu u idiot u got ur a55 beat by pac and u havent even fought Floyd to even make a comparison...
No no no no no no no....a dumb pointless fight...bradley has mediocre skills n didnt prove anything in my eyes on his ability to win against elite fighters. That bullsh*t fake win. Doesnt convince me one bit. I would NOT pay for this and im sure plenty others feel the same
I've thought this before, but then I go naaaah, he wouldn't do that on a live TV broadcast.
Idk bro he dont look like he got lenses and my wife keeps insisting he has no lenses lol...
he will fight in December most likely against Canelo if he wins unless Manny decides to fight him for some reason
Has there been any discussion of this or is it just ur opinion on what u think might happen?
I respect everyones comments but im lookin for a more definitive answer...i understand there was some talk about canelo but im not sure how much weight that holds.
I got a similar thread going but that's Floyd. When DOESN'T he contradict himself? Especially when it comes to Pacmonster.
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my bad i didnt notice if u had a similar thread. but yea he does always contradict himself which is why i enjoy laughing at him when he talks. lol
He offered Pac a $40 million flat fee. If Pac wants to give some of that to Arum so be it.
this is true too but he didnt wanna split the PPV which to me some would go to arum as well. and even if it didnt im sure it would be co-promoted by top rank and TMT which also ina sense hes still puttin money in arums pocket. IDK im just tired of floyd and his circus and yes i know everyone has known this for a long time as have i. But he just makes it so obvious that hes an idiot when it comes to talking and making sense. He's smart when it comes to business/fighting tho so i cant knock'em for that lol
manny just resigned with TR for 18 mos. If manny fights 2 fights, he will almost surely fullfill that contract. floyd's deal with SHowtime includes an out after the 1st fight. Perhaps floyd is simply keeping that fight out there because while most hardcore boxing fans have given up on the fight- the casual mainstream sports fan that ESPN caters to hasn't.
you bring up pretty good points
He seems to do a lot of back tracking. He needs to think about what he is saying and remember it lmao
he also gets stuck on stupid alot when he has no answer to a question and slowly strays away from even attempting an answer. i just figured i'd mention this as its still fresh on pplz minds.
Man I'm not reading that cluttered mess.
everyone else seems to understand just fine...seems like u and that other guy r the only ones having an issue. any way carry on
Bayamon is crazy I Remenber living there with my father in the mid 90s
Still crazy there, i have to go there just about everyday lol....i live in Carolina which isnt much better anyway so im used to all the crazy **** that goes on here!! ppl are seriously nuttz out here! Esta cabron vivir aqui mano
lol if all the members on here were to boycott a floyd fight, floyd will prolly lose out in about less than $1000 in ppv money. like thats gonna make any difference to him lol. there's millions of other people that buys his fight that is not on this forum.
Its evident ur not familiar with the power of social networks, nontheless, we have to start somewhere dont u think? Or do u like being cheated on mega fights as a boxing fan?
I love boxing , and will def watch the fight BUT at a bar not buying that ish!!!
hope floyds numbers tank like pacs, which i think it will after the canelo no action bout. (more canelos fault though). it will humble him down much like broner needed. and showtime will continue to push floyd toward pacquiao fight
so our only hope is if floyds next fight tanks because his whole ordeal is on ppv buys/ticket sales, so if no one buys he has to take on a big name opponent to make up for it much like he had to with canelo. bu$iness baby
BOYCOTT/ STREAM IT ONLINE OR WATCH AT BAR!
im with you on that! screw the BS already!
Should we boycott Pac's next fight too, if it's a Brandon Rios tailor made type opponent or a rematch with Bradley? I don't think so. Boxing aficionado's will still watch both as will alot of casual fans.
The one who seems to be avoiding the fight for a while is floyd.....all fingers point to Floyd buddy NOT pac! This is my reason as to why i would like to boycott.
Mayweather fights the same time every year...Arum said pacs next fight in april...like he does everytime Mayweather picks a date...let's be fair here. Rios was probably the worst opponent of either fighter in the last few years.
u make a good point, BUT floyd is the one makin up all the excuses to NOT fight! if u wanna be fair, then lets be fair. I believe its safe to say (thru evidence provided in this forum) that floyd is the one avoiding this fight at all cost! Pac has agreed to all the dumb BS mayweather wanted and yet here we are still nowhere near sealing the deal. You must admit this is all fishy since its not the 1st time or the last. There's video proof of floyd saying why he wont fight pac...we've all seen it. you want to be fair, then be fair and make an unbiased decision as to why this fight hasn't happened. I'm sure we'll come to the same conclusion.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm on board, we've given way too much money to that ****er to not be delivering the best fight by now.
Thanks, I'm just sick and tired of the excuses!
Ya, a lot of butthurt Garcia fans, who couldn't handle a prediction of Matthysse winning. All you dudes did was cry at Matthysse fans.
You never ever talk boxing, and after the fight? Boastful, lying, and again, not talking the fight.
^^ As everyone can see, it didn't matter how close the fight was, if Garcia won it was a schooling. That's fine. Too bad their won't be a rematch.
and you my friend are 1 extremely butthurt lucas fan who cant come to terms with the harsh reality that ur boy got his ass beat!!! get over it man its boxing, sh1t happens
Not once have I said Lucas won last night. Not once, but it was a close back and forth fight.
where in my statement did u see that i said, you said lucas won? All im sayin is you make it all to obvious that ur upset ur boy lost. I think the last time i got this emotional like you, is when trinidad got beat by hopkins! I wanted to kill the world but in due time i got over it and understood that its boxing and **** happens
Pros are a diferent animal. Lets give Verdejo 3 more years and you will see what I am talking about.
I agree I believe he has alot of potential. Hes only 19 and undefeated. Yes hes beat a few bums in fashion but thats whats expected of him so im not mad at'em. I'd like to see how he manages once his level of comp is better. His last fight I also watched as well and was pretty impressed with how he handled being pressured and fighting backing up. His left hook is lethal to the body and head and he has wilfredo gomez in his corner. I believe he can be the next big thing for PR. Hes very talented and a special kid
Verdejo looks good, but we're a very long way off from knowing if he's the real deal. I've seen many guys like Felix come and go, promising young fighters that ran into the wrong guy and got exposed. Verdejo is still fighting very easy opponents. We need to wait and see what Felix looks like against the next couple of levels before making predictions about his future.
I agree but hes only going to get better as time goes by so hopefully he will be the next big name for PR. I just hope they dont throw him to the lions just yet so young and inexperienced.
You know, NV every single thing you said just now is exactly the opposite of the truth. The Commission found him to "be unaware" that the pads were illegal, and were inclined to exonerate him completely. But they were not able to do so because of a Rule clause. So the judgement also stated that he was being penalised "because you are the head of your team". (And they compromised by administering the lightest penalty allowed by the Rules).
Those are the exact words in the legal decision handed down by the Commission. Why don't you look it up. I read the whole thing from start to finish about 3 weeks ago, including their reasons for not allowing the appeal. I also read legal opinions on the decision. I spent hours going through everything legal that was available. Not speculative fan crap, but solid evidence. Also the lab reports are available, stating that traces of 2 (TWO) elements of plaster-of-paris were found which with a third (a complex molecule of oxygen) would make the plaster. But there was NO THIRD ELEMENT. Do you understand what I'm saying there was NO 3rd element. And there was no quantity, just TRACES. The lab report went on to say that these 2 elements are found in many manufactured items and particularly used very much in COSMETICS. (think absorbent powder.) Another lab report I read said that the 2 traces were from hand cream.
This is the second time tonight I've had to go through the same glop, I'm getting fed up with the blockheads who jump in with both eyes shut and mouth wide open.
Contrary to what many might think (as if I care) I am not a "fan" of any fighter, and couldn't care less about Margarito, either as a fighter or as a person, although he's always shown himself publicly to be a decent, respectable kind of lad. So, has Cotto. None of this matters to me when we're discussing a lynching, over and over and over again. With me it's purely a matter of fact V fiction, looney speculation V hard evidence. Everything else, opinions, jumps of "inspiration" and all that crap mean nothing to me, never have. Never will.
so in other words what was provided to the forum by one of the members (statements from the case ) is wrong?? and u believe that margarito had no fault at all being that a fighter ALWAYS pays attention to the way his hands are being wrapped? i dont buy that bullsh1t story that margarito had no knowledge. call me biased or w.e u may but i personally DONT believe he is innocent and had no knowledge...it just doesnt make sense imo...im simply going based on what was provided as evidence when it came to the whole plaster thing...if im wrong then im wrong fine...but i dont see how that could be true
anything aside from what is known is speculation
i agree 100000% but lab results PROVED there was plaster of paris in his wraps and the commission DIDNT buy his story and stated he was tryin to lie about not knowing or cheating hence his yr suspension. Their was enough evidence to PROVE he had loaded wraps. y are we still talkin about this? why are ppl still denying the evidence and proof? someone in this forum copied parts of the case and posted it so ppl would shut up and stop speculating when the proof is already there. As for the 2 fights...loaded wraps or not i think it coulda went either way. it woulda been close cuz the fact remains cotto was gettin hit and sittin on the ropes to often. the 2nd fight he was smarter, stayed away from the ropes and brawling. he outboxed margs.
you just discredited and disproved your own argument entirely. if he was hit AS he was going down from a TRIP, that means he was ALREADY going down from a TRIP which means the initial reason for the FALL is a trip and thus it's a trip not a knockdown. thanks for owning yourself :bottle::op:
i guess u completely missed out where i said a PUNCH LANDED AT THE SAME TIME!! but its ok i can see how u would overlook that. trip or not its a knockdown cuz he got hit by a punch...u look real dumb for even sayin what u said...let me write this in caps so u understand and dont over look this again! IF U TRIP AND GET HIT BY A PUNCH AS UR GOING DOWN, ITS A KNOCKDOWN...IF U GO DOWN AS A RESULT OF A PUNCH, ITS A KNOCKDOWN. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR UR DUMBASS?
khan was also holding peterson's head down, holding his head in a headlock, on top of pushing off and all for the same reason to create distance from peterson. if khan keeps doing it the ref is justified in taking points. most refs probably wouldn't but that's because we are used to most refs being on the promoters payrolls.
i agree he was holding petersons head down, and in a headlock...but y not take the points for that thats more of an offense appose to a push? Poor refereeing this fight! no credit taken from perterson he went in there like a bull and put in work on khan. i just dont see him winning without the bull**** 2 point deduction for pushing. A big fight like this shouldnt be decided by petty pushes!! i disagree with the 2 point deduction and the end result...but once again congrats to peterson for going in there and fightin his ass off and applying effective pressure. TRUTH IS IF PUSHIN WAS A BIG DEAL COTTO WOULDA GOT DEDUCTED POINTS FOR PUSHIN MARGAS OFF HIM LAST WEEKEND MULTIPLE TIMES! I THINK THAT WAS TERRIBLE WHAT THE REF DID
EVERY single fight that is close is a "robbery". It's only natural, boxing fans are more rabid than ever these days when there are fewer and fewer fans and more and more simple nuthuggers, sackswingers, and bandwagon riders(dickriders).
The truth is, EVERY SINGLE FIGHT that is close will always be called a "robbery" by the side whose man lost.
This was not a robbery why? Well simple because the phantom point deductions were over ridden by the fact that Peterson was also ruled a false knockdown that was not a real knockdown where I believe he tripped over Khan's leg so that cancels out one of the point deductions. The other can easily be argued turns the fight into a draw, or simply that Khan was holding his head down a lot anyway and is lucky he did not get deducted for that.
Simple result: No robbery, go cry some more you butthurts.
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unbiased opinion, tripped or not a punch landed as he was going down, hence a legit knockdown! don't get mad at me for saying what i said, its boxing rules. i didnt make it up lol im just sayin....ur reasoning for that point deduction is false