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What a terrible comparison? When Hatton challenged Mayweather in 2007, he was 29 years old and had not once ever tasted defeat or been in many ring wars in his career leading up to that fight. However, more importantly he had never been KO before facing Mayweather as well. Pac on the other hand, by the time he inevitably challenged Money was 36 and a half years old and had been in several ring wars and trilogies and tasted defeat several times before; Five to be exact. In addition, he had already been KO on at least three different occasions before meeting Floyd Mayweather too. You're a moron. Hatton didn't have wars? Every fight after, and including the kostya tszyua fight was a war. "36 and a half"? You're going to include the "half" and the two KOs from the beginning of his career? Get the **** out of here. A slightly diminished mayweather beat a slightly diminished pacquiao. It's done. When you sign the contract, you put your legacy on the line, no matter what happens.

So did manny, Lazcano,ect,ect Collazo, won atleast 8 rounds in that fight. Hatton was never great! Cotto was stronger, faster and more powerful, Hattons suppose pressure would be his undoing!! Cotto KHTFO Cotto was also very chiney at 140. There's no doubt that Cotto has some beautiful boxing. But there are more factors involved. On paper, @ 140, I think Hatton wins. @147, different story. It's Left Hook to the Body vs Left Hook to the body.. that's what I love about this fight.

He did not lose to Collazo. Just because he got rocked in the last round, doesn't mean he lost the fight. He Knocked down Collazo in the first fight. Hatton was great at 140. Cotto was really good at 147. Who knows what could have happened, but if the fight happened at 140, I think the pressure of Hatton would get to Cotto. Hatton doesn't get any love for his boxing skills. Watch him fight Ben Takie and Urango. He displayed wonderfull boxing skills. If the fight happened at 147, Cotto might have taken it. By the time Cotto reached 147, and after Hatton beat Tszyu, Hatton showed problems at 147.... But it's a fight that should have happened.

When did Hatton get rocked before Tszyu? I've watched all of this fights... He got rocked after Tszyu, but never before. Cotto got rocked A LOT more at 140 than 147.

Difference in opinion. I don't have him losing 8 rounds to Collazo. And, like I said, He has a 10 8 round in that fight. And he was great at 140. His resume wasn't that great, but he was. He made Tszyu quit and he broke Castillo's ribs. He KOed Mauser a round faster than Cotto. He out boxed Urango, Ben Tackie. For a little dude, he was an exciting Junior Welterweight to Fight. When I say he was great, I don't mean HOF... I mean he was GREAT to watch.

Everyone who is riding hard on Cotto here is forgetting one thing... Cotto got rocked on a regular basis at 140. I'm not saying he can't beat Hatton, but everyone likes to write Hatton off because he got knocked out by Manny. We can only discuss how things look on "paper" cause the fight never materialized, saying that... you got one good boxer who got rocked at 140, against the Ring Magazine Lineal Champion at 140... if the fight was as 147, much different story. If it happened early in their careers, I favor Hatton, if it happened afterwards, I favor Cotto.

victor ortiz is the dumbest fighter as of 2012.

First off, you haven't watched all of his fights prior unless you are in the Hatton camp because they aren't all obtainable. Secondly, Hatton was cut in practically every fight prior to a world title as well. He had a phenomenal chin. I'm sure blowing up and losing weight in between fights destroyed his punch resistance. You're right, I haven't watched EVERY SINGLE FIGHT. I might not have seen 5 fights of his professional career, maybe less... But why would you nit pick that? And secondly... what point are you making in relation to what I said? Yeah he got cut a lot, but that's because he has a skin condition. And yeah I agree with that last statement. People need to chill.

Even if Tszyu was past his prime, Power is the last thing to go. Speed and Reflexes are the first. Hatton took Tszyu's punches. The Hatton that fought Tszyu is not the same Hatton that fought Mayweather, and definitely not the same Hatton that fought Manny. If you're going to sh!t on Ricky Hatton, at least know what you're talking about.

He is very accurate. And like someone said, durable. Bj Penn, Silva, and GSP all have better "boxing", but Diaz is relentless. While he boxes you, he's also playing mind games.

Not to diss, but it seems that you really didn't follow the division closely back then. Remember more importantly than who is when. Again, more importantly than who is when. He wasn't a bum. But, he was a tough journeyman/fringe contender level fighter. I won't argue that. But, he couldn't carry margarito jockstrap. Nobody? This is not true. Lets not use hyperbole. Floyd also had negotiations with Margarito after Judah lost to Baldomir. Which is weird since Marg was a "nobody" but whatever. Either way he still went on with the Judah fight. Who is this "everyone" that said mayweather was ducking Baldomir? Brian Kenny? Is he the be all and end be all(no disrespect to Brian Kenny, I actually liked him on FNF's) of boxing public opinion? But, of course if Floyd was going to fight Judah, then yes why not fight the guy that actually beat him instead. It makes sense for that to be said. I'm not denying that Baldomir was the lineal champ. But, lineal champ does not mean you're the best fighter in the division. You falling into the trap in believing that it equates to each other. And, please stop playing Floyd as the victim. No one would have said he would have been ducking Malignaggi. Let's cut the nonsense shall we? Yea, you can't fight for the title if you don't pay the sanctioning fee. He was dropped against a Euro-Bum level fighter early in his career, early in the fight. But, was visibly put on queer street and almost KTFO by Collazo. Judah was more flashy thank slick. But, yea we will agree to disagree on that one. They were not prospects though man. Floyd already had achieved ATG status in a division and then moved up to beat the greatest LW in the last 15 years twice. He was 3 division title holder, and a 2 division lineal champ. Judah was a 2 division title holder and a former unified, undisputed, lineal champ. They had accomplished their feat already. Hell Floyd was a HOF'er before even going to WW. Margarito was recognized as the best in the division. While Baldomir was recognized as the lineal champ. And, my point is that Hatton wasn't smaller than Mayweather. He wasn't stronger than Floyd. But, he also wasn't smaller. Yea Floyd had fought in September of 09' and Mosley in January of 09' He was Knocked Down early in his career, in the first round, but he wasn't Hurt, he was more off balance. If you haven't seen the fight, don't comment. He was rocked by Collazo, but he didn't go down. Hatton's durability suffered greatly after Tszyu. He walked through people, until he move to WW. If you don't give Mayweather any credit, you don't give credit to his opposition. It's a losing battle. You have to respect Mayweather, in order to understand his resume and the way he defeated his opposition. The people that claim Mayweather isn't good/great, are those that are in love with Manny Pacquiao (the majority of them). A few posts ago, someone called him boring, and claimed Pacquiao was a Knock Out Machine. Mayweather is beautiful to watch. There's technique, speed, and defense in the things he does. I guess if you love pure boxing (the sweet science), you should appreciate the way he wins, and how he fights. Manny is more explosive, but he hasn't had a stunning KO since Hatton. I'm not going to go into how Hatton's punch resiliency had been completely depleted by then, because I respect Pacquiao, and he deserves the win. Once you sign the contract, it's on you to find a way to win. But he isn't a KO machine. He should have finished Clottey, who landed 6 uppercuts and fcuked up his face. He should have finished Cotto sooner. Margarito was too durable. Marquez has his number. Mosley ran away from him. He should have caught Mosley, and finished him, but he couldn't. Mayweather has fought good opposition. If you say he cherry picked, then the same goes for Manny. But in order for that arguement to come to a close, you have to respect both fighters, and what they've done in their careers. I'm rambling, cause I hate when no one credits Hatton, so I'm out.

This is post is kind of all over the place. And a lot with irrelevant information. I didn't say he was hurt when he got dropped. I just said he got dropped. Which he did. The hurt/queer street/almost KTFO comment was related to the Collazo fight. So where exactly did I make a comment of something that I don't know or haven't seen? Never mentioned in this thread at all. That Pac had crazy power or a KO machine or whatever else you're blabbing about. And, the rest of you post is just a rant that doesn't have anything to do with my post. Yeah, sorry about that. That wasn't a reply to your thread, just the Hatton thing caught my eye, and I hit reply. But yeah, it was a rant.

Hatton was number 8 on the p4p list when Mayweather fought him. Also ranked number one jr welterweight.

They would have pretty much the same, which is why I selected that option. Cotto would beat Mayweather's last three and have toughest against Ortiz Mayweather would have beat Cotto's last three and have the toughest I suppose against Margarito I agree Cotto might have a hard time with Ortiz, but I don't think Mayweather would have a hard time against 2011 Margarito.

Yuri Foreman has no power, so Cotto could walk him down. I felt the Mayorga fight was tough. I was impressed by the KO, and Cotto's patience. I was a little underwhelmed by Cotto's performance against Margarito. I thought Cotto was going to destroy him (in the way Mosley did). But it was still a tough and good fight. The Marquez fight is tricky for me. It didn't seem like a tough fight. You don't see Money is tough fights. The debate is whether it's because he's so good or it's because of the level of his opposition. I do think he boxed a tough 2nd round against Mosely, and came back to dominate. I also liked him picking Ortiz. I thought it was a good tough choice for him at the time. The way I look at it... If you flip their opposition, would Cotto and Mayweather have a more or less tougher time. Mayweather vs Foreman/Mayorga/Margarito Cotto vs Marquez/Mosley/Ortiz.

To put on a good show.

I don't think Clottey should be on that list.

I think it's silly... nah, stupid, to complain about the undercard. Boxing usually has boring undercards. Lately though, Golden Boy has put out good shows, with stacking it's undercard with names and boxers ready to fight. I applaud Oscar for taking a page out of the UFC's book, and putting on a good show. I can't believe someone said it's because they want to fool the public into thinking Mayweather can outsell Pacquiao PPV. Not everything is about Mayweather and Pacquiao. Sometimes, it's about putting on a good show.

Ricky loses because his face gets mangled, even if by headbutts Hatton is not going to say hay I won 3 of the first 5 fuck it I am giving up going to the cards now because really I am fucked if I go on, he will go until the fight is unrecoverable. huh? wait... what?

i hope someone finds 1!

this one got pretty ugly. I don't think we've seen a PRIME Bradley yet. But I know I've watched a PRIME Hatton, and no matter what... I'd take a PRIME Hatton over any Bradley. I like Bradley, he's like a mini-Holyfield. And I'll root for him against Pacquiao, But Judging from the clips that were presented... I'd go with Hatton.

I love the respect you guys are showing. But it's almost 3pm... which means all these kids are getting out of class... which means they'll be hitting these boards, and saying something stupid.

I can't dispute the fact he beat Tszyu, however we all know he won due to a biased ref. Had the fight taken placed anywhere else Tszyu would have won by decision. As far as underrating him...I think most people rank him where he belongs not a great fighter but IMO he is close to being Hall of Fame worthy. how does that make any sense, if Tszyu quit?

khan took a lot out of maidana with that body kd in the first round....

the ball is in Pacquiao's court now. Everyone is playing the waiting game... This is very exciting.

yes they fooled us , but losers like Atlas and Malinaggi are just haters. There is a reason why that clown Atlas is on ESPN and not HBO OR sHOWTIME. Really his predictions are way off and who has he trained lately. Alex Povetkin, Really? Shut up Teddy , just because you have a mic doesn't mean you are the know all , end all. He knows more than you. I'd rather listen to him than you.

he didn't even hurt pacquaio once so what you talking about finishing him lol.....floyd was wobbled 3 times by a fighter hindered by a bad shoulder.....again bayless never deducted a point from mayweather for leaning on him or the forearms...if I was pacquaio I would take the 20 percent and bang that left in harder with more volume...it's obvious floyd can't hurt him because pacquaio walked through everything mayweather threw at him...just a fair fight is required by the ref...compu stats and judges...I saw a closer fight than 118 to 110 for sure Yea... Wobbled..yo, aren't there any moderators in these forums to purge all the bull****?